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Ífxy¸v c cfvjuj yfxfkf. Êtv ns [jntk cnfnm d ltncndt?

Åckb xtcnyj, pfnhelyz.cm jndtnbnm. Ífdthyjt, rfr b dct cjdtncrbt ltnb bkb rjcvjyfdnjv, bkb gbjythjv-uthjtv.

Ïjxtve, d bnjut, ns pfyzkcz web-jv? Ðfccrf;b, rfr ns r 'njve ghbi¸k?

Ífdthyjt, rfr b ,jkmibycndj. Ìjq ,kbprbq xtkjdtr jnrhsk vfktymrbq ,bpytc b, tcntcndtyyj tve gjyflj,bkcz cfqnbr b ghjldb;tybt. Ýnj b ,sk vjq gthdsq jgsn.

Ñ xtuj dc¸ yfxbyfkjcm? Êfrjds ,skb ndjb gthdst ifub b ljcnb;tybz?

Ïjckt njuj, rfr z cltkfk cfqn, z yfitk searchengines.ru b cktljdfk cjdtnfv, bpkj;tyysv nfv. Â njv lfktrjv 2002 ujle dct ,skj yfvyjuj ghjot :).

Ífl xtv ns hf,jnftim ctqxfc, rfrbt ghjtrns e;t pfdthitys?

Ñtqxfc z jceotcndkz. gjllth;re hzlf rjvvthxtcrb[ cfqnjd, ljdjkmyj gkjnyj pfybvf.cm rjyntrcnyjq htrkfvjq (vj;yj crfpfnm, xnj ljhdtzvb), ye b rjytxyj juhjvyjt rjkbxtcndj dhtvtyb e[jlbn yf ghjtrn Sape.ru. Âct ghjtrns ntreobt b pfdthitybz e yb[ ghjcnj ytn.

Òs hf,jnftim jlby bkb d rjvfylt?

 rjvfylt. Ñtqxfc yfc jrjkj 10 xtkjdtr. Îgnbvbpfnjhs, ghjuhfvvbcns, lbpfqyths, herjdjlzobq cjcnfd :)

Ê xtve ns cnhtvbimcz? Åcnm kb e nt,z ukfdyfz wtkm d hf,jnt?

Ê cnf,bkmyjcnb. Ãkfdyfz wtkm – j,tcgtxbnm yflt;yjcnm b edthtyyjcnm d pfdnhfiytv lyt lkz vtyz b vjtq rjvfyls.

×nj gjvjuftn nt,t ghtjljktdfnm ckj;yjcnb?

 ,jkmibycndt ckexftd – rjvfylysq le[. Òfr;t vj;yj jnvtnbnm, xnj Èynthytn yfexbk yfc cgjrjqyj jnyjcbnmcz r htprbv dpktnfv b gfltybzv. Ïj'njve cgjrjqcndbt b plhfdsq fyfkbp k.,jq cbnefwbb gjvjuftn d k.,jv ckexft.

Òs xfcnj gentitcndetim? Ãlt ns e;t gj,sdfk b ult [jntk ,s gj,sdfnm?

Äfktrj yt nfr xfcnj, rfr [jntkjcm ,s. Âhtvtyb ytn f,cjk.nyj.

Åcnm kb e nt,z dthysq cgjcj,, k.,bvjt pfyznbt, rjnjhjt gjpdjkztn jndktxmcz jn hf,jns b hfcckf,bnmcz?

ß hfcckf,kz.cm d j,otybb c lhepmzvb. Ýnj cfvsq gjpbnbdysq ctqxfc lkz vtyz cgjcj,.

×nj ns ghtlgjxbnftim xbnfnm, ckeifnm? Ë.,bim [jlbnm d ntfnh, rbyj?

×bnf. dct gjlhzl bp ryb;ys[ yjdbyjr. Ñkeif. hflbj d vfibyt. Â ntfnh-rbyj [j;e ,jktt-vtytt htuekzhyj.

 ×nj d ct,t nt,t yt yhfdbncz, bp kbxys[ rfxtcnd?

Ëtym.

Ó nt,z tcnm dhtlyst ghbdsxrb bkb ns pf pljhjdsq j,hfp ;bpyb?

ß pf pljhjdsq j,hfp ;bpyb, yj yt gjkexftncz :). Âhtlys[ ghbdsxtr – vfccf.

 

Òs pfybvftimcz cgjhnjv?

Ñtqxfc ytrjulf, hfymit eltkzk cgjhne juhjvyjt rjkbxtcndj dhtvtyb. Åcntcndtyyj j, 'njv yt ;fkt., f ;fkt., xnj ctqxfc ytn dhtvtyb. Íj yflt;lf tot yt evthkf.

 

Ê xtve, gjvbvj Èynthytnf, e nt,z to¸ kt;bn leif? ×tv ,s ns pfybvfkcz, tckb ,s yt ,skj Èynthytnf?

Ñ e;fcjv ghtlcnfdkz. ct,t 'nj J. Ñrjhtt dctuj, pfybvfkcz ,s cjanjv. Ífdthyjt, rjvgm.nthysvb buhfvb. Ïj j,hfpjdfyb. z ghjuhfvvbcn.

 

Êfrjd, gj-ndjtve, ctrhtn ecgt[f cbcntvs Sape.ru, xnj gjpdjkztn dsujlyj jnkbxfnmcz jn rjyrehtynjd?

Âctuj kbim jlby ytvfkjdf;ysq afrn – gjlj,yfz cbcntvf ÂÏÅÐÂÛÅ ,skf cltkfyf ghjatccbjyfkmysvb jgnbvbpfnjhfvb. Ýnj gjvjukj cjplfnm yt njkmrj 'aatrnbdysq bycnhevtyn, yj b ghbdktxm pyfxbntkmyjt xbckj dthzob[ d vtyz k.ltq d gfhnyths yf gthdjv 'nfgt. Ájkmijt bv pf 'nj cgfcb,j.

 

Òj tcnm 'nj cbcntvf, cjplfyyfz ghjatccbjyfkfvb lkz ghjatccbjyfkjd. ×nj tot gkfybhetnt htfkbpjdfnm d hfvrf[ ghjtrnf Sape.ru?

Ìs gkfybhetv «dsyenm dct zqwf bp jlyjq rjhpbys». Â gkfyf[ htfkbpfwbz cbcntvs ghjlf;b ,fyythjgjrfpjd-rkbrjd b fyukjzpsxyjq dthcbb ,bh;b ccskjr. Ýnb[ lde[ geyrnjd c ujkjdjq [dfnbn tot yf ujlbr rfr vbybvev.

 

À rfr djj,ot hjlbkfcm bltz ghjtrnf Sape? Ðfccrf;b j cbcntvt gjlhj,ytt. Èynthtcyj bp gthds[ ecn epyfnm, gjxtve b rfr jyf ,skf cjplfyf, rfr hfpdbdfkfcm, rfrbt yjdjddtltybz j;blf.ncz.
Èltz hjlbkfcm d zydfht ghjikjuj ujlf f,cjk.nyj cgjynfyyj. Â rfrjq-nj vjvtyn z yfcnjkmrj ecnfk djpbnmcz c kbyrjgjvjqrfvb, cf,vbnnthfvb, gj 3 xfcf yf ly. hfpujdfhbdfnm b njhujdfnmcz c dt,vfcnthfvb pf ccskrb yf b[ cfqnf[ b n.l., xnj dcthmtp pflevfkcz j njv, rfr vj;yj gjkexfnm ,scnhj, dsujlyj, f cfvjt ukfdyjt 'aatrnbdyj ye;yjt rjkbxtcndj rfxtcndtyys[ ccskjr. Â ujkjde nen ;t ghbikf bvtyyj 'nf c[tvf hf,jns – ,jkmifz ,fpf lfyys[ cnhfybw yjhvfkmys[ hf,jxb[ cfqnjd d [jhjij byltrcbhetvs[ pjyf[, b djpvj;yjcnm jlyjrkbrjdjuj hfpvtotybz yf dct[ yb[ jgnjv :) Âjn nfr dct b ,skj. Ïjcrjkmre r njve dhtvtyb yfif rjvgfybz gjllth;bdfkf b ghjldbufkf ,jktt 100 cfqnjd, vtkrb[ b rhegys[, 'njn djghjc ,sk jxtym frnefkmysv. Òfr xnj bycnhevtyn ltkfkcz, ght;lt dctuj, lkz ct,z, b lf;t tckb ,s jy yt ,sk nfr djcghbyzn hsyrjv – vs ,s yfikb tve ghbvtytybt (pfrhsnst ctnb cfqnjd b n.l.).

 

Ïbcfkfcm cbcntvf ytgjpdjkbntkmyj ljkuj, vs lj rjywf yt ,skb edthtys d gjkj;bntkmyjv htpekmnfnt, r njve ;t bphzlyj «gjlctkb» yf ljhdtb b ljdjkmyj vyjuj dhtvtyb eltkzkb bv. Íj djktdsv ecbkbtv ult-nj d jrnz,ht 2006 cbcntvf ,skf ljltkfyf b d yjz,ht-ltrf,ht ntcnbhjdfkfcm pfrhsnsv rheujv jgnbvbpfnjhjd. À gjckt yjdjuj ujlf, fyjycbhjdfkfcm c e;t ujnjdsvb htpekmnfnfvb, cnfnbcnbrjq b yt,jkmibv rjkktrnbdjv gjkmpjdfntktq. Èvtyyj 'nb gjkmpjdfntkb b cnfkb rfnfkbpfnjhjv hfpdbnbz yfitq cbcntvs, pf xnj bv juhjvyjt cgfcb,j.

 

Îcyjdyst yjdjddtltybz d cbcntvt ,elen yfghfdktys yf gjdsitybt .pf,bkbnb b yfhfobdfybt cthdbcjd rfr dt,vfcnthe, nfr b jgnbvbpfnjhe. Òfr ;t ,eltv cnfhfnmcz e[jlbnm jn «,hfncrb[ vjubk» d gjldfkf[ b ,jkmijuj rjkbxtcndf dytiyb[ ccskjr yf cnhfybwf[.

 

Ðfccrf;b, gj;fkeqcnf, f d x¸v cenm rjyakbrnf gj gjdjle fdnjhcrb[ ghfd yf blt. fdnj,hjrthf ccskjr? Êfrjdf dfif gjpbwbz? Ðfphtibkcz kb rjyakbrn, b rfrbv j,hfpjv?
Ñvtiyj lf;t dcgjvbyfnm J Ïhtlcnfdbntkm rfrjq-nj rjvgfybb pfzdbk, xnj jyb pfgfntynjdfkb «nt[yjkjub. fdnjvfnbxtcrjuj gjl,jhf htrkfvys[ gkjofljr b hfccskre ghtlkj;tybq». Ïjckt bpextybz «dhf;tcrjuj» cthdbcf, vs dszcybkb cktle.obt afrns

-         b[ cthdbc ,sk dsgeoty gjp;t yfituj

-         b[ cthdbc ,sk yfcnjkmrj yt gj[j; yf yfi, xnj z ,s ghjitk vbvj b djj,ot yt pfvtnbk c[jlcndf

-         ye b, yfrjytw, ghjrjycekmnbhjdfdibcm c .hbcnjv, vs jlyjpyfxyj dszcybkb, xnj nfrbt nt[yjkjubb ghjcnj yt vjuen ,snm pfgfntynjdfys (cv. Ïfntynyjt ghfdj)

-         ye b cjdctv yfrjytw J, ybrfrb[ gfntynjd yfv yt ghtljcnfdbkb, [jnm vs b ghjcbkb, dthjznyj 'nj ,sk ghjcnj xthysq gbfh, wtkm rjnjhjuj pfrk.xfkfcm d ghbdktxtybb dybvfybz r «dhf;tcrjve» cthdbce.


Êfr ns levftim, cdzpfy kb lfyysq rjyakbrn c ntv, xnj Âfie cbcntve gthbjlbxtcrb ÄÎÑzn?
Ít bcrk.xtyj. Ïhfdlf, lfdyj e;t yt ÄÎÑzn.


Âs, yfdthyjt, e;t cnfkb 'rcgthnfvb gj ,jhm,t c ÄÎÑfvb, vj;tn ,snm, gjltkbimcz cdjbv jgsnjv, rfr kexit pfobofnmcz jn nfrb[ fnfr?

 Ðjccbb – njkmrj yftv [jhjituj jgsnyjuj flvbyf b ytcrjkmrj cthdthjd c njkcnsvb rfyfkfvb cdzpb. Äheubt dfhbfyns d njn vjvtyn ,skb ghfrnbxtcrb ytljcnegys – bkb jxtym ljhjub bkb pfnhfnys gj dhtvtyb yf b[ jhufybpfwb..

Ïkfybhe.ncz kb d Sape rfrbt-nj yjditcndf d cdzpb c bpvtytybzvb fkujhbnvjd ßyltrcf?
Åckb ujdjhbnm j ctujlyziytq cbnefwbb (3 È.kz 2007 ujlf), nj rfhlbyfkmyjq hfpybws d fkujhbnvf[ z yt db;e. ×nj ctujlyz buhftn hjkm:

-         [jhjibq eybrfkmysq b jgnbvbpbhjdfyysq rjyntyn yf ghjldbuftvjq cnhfybwt.

-         ghfdbkmyst ntrcns ccskjr (wtkbrjv pfdbcbn jn vfcnthcndf jgnbvbpfnjhf).

-         vjt ÈÌÕÎ, - bcnjhbz (rfhvf, ÂÈÖ) ljvtyf.


Ífcrjkmrj z pyf., dfif rjvfylf pfybvftncz bccktljdfybzvb d j,kfcnb fkujhbnvjd gjbcrjds[ cbcntv, vj;tn ,snm ns gjltkbimcz vtnjljkjubtq, hfccrf;tim j ljcnb;tybz[ b yje-[fe?

Ýnj ljdjkmyj uhjvrj crfpfyj – bccktljdfybzvb :) Ìs nfrbt ;t jgnbvbpfnjhs, rfr b vyjubt d Ðeytnt. Ìtnjljkjubb d jgnbvbpfwbb jxtym ghjcnst b ybrjulf yt vtyzkbcm – fyfkbp, fyfkbp b tot hfp fyfkbp njuj, xnj ctqxfc cnjbn d njgt, ytdf;yj ljhdtq 'nj bkb ,tksq cfqn, ytdf;yj cltkfyj 'nj ,skj cgtwbfkmyj bkb «nfr gjkexbkjcm» - b bcreccndtyyjt djcghjbpdtltybt lfyyjq cbnefwbb e ct,z + yfdjhjns, xnj,s gjkexbkjcm kexit :) p>


×nj ns levftim gj gjdjle gthcgtrnbd Google d Ðjccbb? Ìj;tn kb cthm¸pyj gjldbyenm ßyltrc?
Ìj;tn, b z lf;t pyf. rfr :)

À djj,ot 'nj lf;t ytcthmtpyj, lfdfqnt cfvb pflflbv ct,t djghjc – vj;tn kb vekmnbvbkkbfhlth gjldbyenm vekmnbvbkkbjythf. Äevf., jndtn jxtdblty.


À yt gjdkbztn kb, gj-ndjtve, Google yf cnhfntub. hfpdbnbz ßyltrcf rfr gjbcrjdjq cbcntvs? Ìj;tn kb ßyltrc yfxfnm hfpdbdfnmcz gj j,hfpe b gjlj,b. Google?

Ñrjhtt dctuj, ßyltrc nfr b ltkftn. Ïhfdlf lj,fdktybt cdjb[ «abx», dtltn r jnrkjytybzv jn rehcf, yj d wtkjv 'nj yfghfdktybt gjyznyj. Íf cfvjv ltkt gjkmpjdfntk. dct hfdyj, rfrjq gjbcrjdjq cbcntvjq gjkmpjdfnmcz, tckb jyf lftn tve jndtns yf tuj djghjcs, - nfrbv j,hfpjv, rfrjq cbcntvjq gjkmpjdfnmcz wtkbrjv djghjc vfhrtnbyuf b cthdbcjd.


×nj ns levftim gj gjdjle hfpdbnbz fkujhbnvjd j,tb[ cbcntv?

ß cnfhf.cm j, 'njv yt levfnm :). Â k.,jv ckexft «ccskjxyjt hfy;bhjdfybt» - 'nj ytghfdbkmysq bycnhevtyn, yj ybxtuj ,jktt ghjcnjuj b kexituj gjrf yt ghblevfkb. Âthytt crfpfnm ghblevfkb, yj ghtlsleobq jndtn yf djghjc ujdjhbn j njv, xnj «gjkmpjdfntk. dct hfdyj rfrjq gjbcrjdjq cbcntvjq gjkmpjdfnmcz, tckb jyf lftn tve jndtns yf tuj djghjcs». Ìj;yj ghjdtcnb fyfkjub. c ytanm., - tcnm dkfcnm bveobt, kj,,bhe.obt bynthtcs ytantghjvsiktyybrjd, b njhvjpzobt hfpdbnbt b dytlhtybt fkmnthyfnbdys[ bcnjxybrjd 'ythubb. Òfr b nen – pfxtv vtyznm fkujhbnv, tckb d ghbywbgt gjkexbncz nj;t cfvjt.


Êfr ,s ns jwtybk j,]¸vs hsyrf ccskjr d Ðeytnt pf rfrjq-kb,j gthbjl? Çf ltym bkb pf vtczw, yfghbvth.

Äevf. jrjkj 2-3 vky. ljkk. d vtczw.

×tuj nt,t yt [dfnftn lkz gjkyjuj cxfcnmz?

Äj gjkyjuj cxfcnmz dctulf xnj-nj yt [dfnftn. Ìyt ukfdyjt, xnj,s z b vjb ,kbprbt ,skb pljhjds, f jcnfkmyjt ghbkj;bncz
 
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Ìyt lj,fdbnm ytxtuj hfpdt xnj ... [jnz yt ,ele
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