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Ñfvfz jcnhfz b frnefkmyfz ntvf ctujlyz — 'nj 'rjyjvbxtcrfz
cbnefwbz d cnhfyt. Êfr rhbpbc jnhf;ftncz yf bynthytn-,bpytct e;t ctqxfc?
Ñtujlyz e;t zcyj, xnj d wtkjv dtcm htrkfvysq hsyjr c[kjgsdftncz jxtym
cthmtpyj. Íj d xfcnb wbahjdjuj vfhrtnbyuf gjrf dct tot yt jlyjpyfxyj.
Êfrbt-nj j,jcyjdfyyst jwtyrb vj;yj ,eltn lfdfnm gj bnjufv gthdjuj
rdfhnfkf.
Ìjue crfpfnm jlyj — cbnefwbz «dtctkfz», gjnjve xnj jyf nz;tktt njuj,
xnj z rjulf-kb,j dbltk. ß ,sk cdbltntktv rhbpbcjd 1998 ujlf ([jnz
b yt ,sk d ,bpytct njulf) b rhbpbcf 2008 (e;t ,elexb d ,bpytct gj cfvst
ukfyls) — ctqxfc cbnefwbz ujhfplj ckj;ytt.
Åckb ;t ujdjhbnm j dthjznys[ gjcktlcndbz[ 'rjyjvbxtcrjuj rhbpbcf,
nj ,j.cm, xnj d 'njn hfp yf bynthytn-bylecnhbb jy jnhfpbncz ytufnbdytt,
xtv d 2008 ujle.
Êfrjds ghtlgjcskrb? Ïjxtve yf 'njn hfp lkz hjccbqcrjuj jykfqy-hsyrf dct ckj;bncz [e;t?
Ïthdfz b jcyjdyfz ghtlgjcskrf cdzpfyf c ntv, xnj d 2008 ujle vyjubt
htrkfvjlfntkb yf ajyt gfltybz j,jhjnf b dshexrb gthtrkflsdfkb cdjb
,.l;tns bp nhflbwbjyys[ htrkfvys[ rfyfkjd d 'aatrnbdye. c njxrb phtybz
pfnhfn b ghjcne. d gkfyt bpvthtybz wbahjde. htrkfve. Înhfckm
bynthytn-htrkfvs ,skf jwtytyf gj ljcnjbycnde, b gj ,jkmijve cxtne rhbpbc
2008 ujlf dspdfk htprbq ghbnjr rkbtynjd d bynthytn. Ýnj hfp.
Ädf — d 2008 ujle hsyjr ,sk d cnflbb frnbdyjuj hjcnf,
dytiyt'rjyjvbxtcrbt ghbxbys ,skb tlbycndtyysv afrnjhjv, bp-pf rjnjhjuj
hjccbqcrfz 'rjyjvbrf gflfkf. Â wtkjv ;t e ytt ,skb jxtym [jhjibt
dyenhtyybt gjrfpfntkb: ,sk ghjvsiktyysq hjcn, gflfkf ,tphf,jnbwf,
hfpdbdfkcz vfksq ,bpytc. Ñtujlyz, d jnkbxbt jn rhbpbcf 2008 u. (rjnjhsq
,sk vbhjdsv b ,sk dspdfy hfplensv bgjntxysv rhtlbnjdfybtv),
vs gjkexbkb ,s rhbpbc b ,tp cfyrwbq, b ,tp Êhsvf. Ó yfc jy yfxfkcz e;t
d 2013 ujle, z ,s lf;t crfpfk d rjywt 2012. È ghbxbyf njve — dyenhtyybt
afrnjhs:
- Âj-gthds[, hjccbqcrfz 'rjyjvbrf yt hfcntn.
Ó yfc rhbpbc ghjvsiktyyjuj ghjbpdjlcndf, gflftn cghjc, hfcntn ljkujdfz
yfuheprf yf yfctktybt... Ìj;yj ljkuj j, 'njv ujdjhbnm.
Ãkfdyjt —
d cnhfyt juhjvysq ltabwbn rdfkbabwbhjdfyys[ rflhjd. Ìs ctqxfc
hfcgkfxbdftvcz pf uht[b 90-[ ujljd, rjulf bp-pf rhfqyt ybprjq
hj;lftvjcnb b dscjrjq cvthnyjcnb ghjbpjikj htprjt cyb;tybt tcntcndtyyjuj
ghbhjcnf yfctktybz.
Ìjkjlt;b, rjnjhfz ctujlyz ljk;yf ,skf ,s cnfnm nheljdsv htpthdjv
cnhfys, ytn bkb t¸ rfnfcnhjabxtcrb vfkj. Ïhb 'njv yfkjub b cjwbfkmyfz
yfuheprf yf nheljcgjcj,yjt yfctktybt hfcnen.
- Âj-dnjhs[, xnj nj;t jxtym df;yj, ntvg
ghjybryjdtybz bynthytnf d Ðjccbb ceotcndtyyj cybpbkcz, dct jcyjdyst
htubjys gjlrk.xtys, f pyfxbn, b lbyfvbrf hjcnf ghbnjrf yjds[
gjkmpjdfntktq dct vtymit.
Àrnbdysq hjcn yjdjq felbnjhbb d bynthytnt d 2008 ujle ghbytc hsyre bynthytn-htrkfvs ,jkmijq yfgksd yjds[ rkbtynjd.
Îlyfrj
nfrjuj ghbnjrf rkbtynjd, rfrjq ,sk d 2008 ujle, rjulf bynthytn
lbyfvbxyj hfpdbdfkcz, vs e;t yt edblbv — dct rhegyst ujhjlf j[dfxtys.
Ë.,jq ghbhjcn gjkmpjdfntkmcrjq felbnjhbb 'rjyjvbxtcrjuj pyfxtybz
bvtnm yt ,eltn (tot 120 lthtdtym ltytu hsyre yt ghbytcen). Â wtkjv hsyjr
bynthytn-htrkfvs hfcnb yt ,eltn — ytrelf hfcnb. Ájkmifz xfcnm dphjckjuj
yfctktybz Ðjccbb e;t gjlrk.xtyf. Ìs ctqxfc d ltvjuhfabxtcrjq lsht,
j rjnjhjq z e;t ujdjhbk dsit.
- Â-nhtnmb[, nj, xnj ytkmpz yt exbnsdfnm, —
htprfz ltdfkmdfwbz. Â 2008 ujle ÖÁ dc¸ ;t elth;bdfk dfk.nysq rehc.
Îy hjc, yj gkfdyj, yt ,skj ijrjnthfgbb.
À d ltrf,ht ghjikjuj ujlf yfv ghjcnj yfgjkjdbye cybpbkb lj[jls. Ó nt,z ,skj 100 000, f ntgthm 50 000 — gjkexfq eljdjkmcndbt.
Ñevvf 'nb[ afrnjhjd b jnkbxftn 2008 jn 2014–2015 ujljd.
È tot jlby vjvtyn, rjnjhsq ytkmpz c,hfcsdfnm cj cxtnjd, — jcnhfz gjkbnbxtcrfz cbnefwbz d cnhfyt. Â 2008–2009
ujlf[ bycnhevtyns ds[jlf bp rhbpbcf ,skb gjyznys, b vs vjukb yf,k.lfnm
pfxfnrb yjdjuj 'rjyjvbxtcrjuj hjcnf. Ñtujlyz vs dblbv njkmrj cueof.obtcz
nexb yf ujhbpjynt.
Ïjkbnbxtcrfz cbnefwbz vtyztncz jxtym ,scnhj. Ìbycrbt gthtujdjhs 11–12
atdhfkz 2015 ujlf gj afrne ghbdtkb r njve, xnj vbh ctujlyz cnjbn
yf rhf. ,jkmijq djqys. Åckb lj vbycrb[ cjukfitybq gjkbnbxtcre. cbnefwb.
yf Órhfbyt pfvfkxbdfkb, nj gjckt dctq ievb[b, ghjbpdtltyyjq Ìthrtkm
b Êj, k.,jt ytbcgjkytybt ljujdjhtyyjcntq dgjkyt cjqltn pf ghjdjrfwb.,
ljcnfnjxye., xnj,s yfxfnm gjkyjvfcinf,yjt djjhe;tybt Órhfbys
b gjcktle.obq ddjl «vbhjndjhwtd» b djqcr ÍÀÒÎ. Â lheujq cwtyfhbq, ult
vbh dj dctv vbht ghtdfkbhetn, z yt dth. ctqxfc cjdctv. Ít ckj;bkbcm
eckjdbz, ujdjhz lbgkjvfnbxtcrbv zpsrjv. Íj ghbphfxyj yflt.cm, xnj dct
«hfccjctncz».
Âc¸ 'nj yt lj,fdkztn bydtcnjhfv jgnbvbpvf b ;tkfybz drkflsdfnmcz
d hjccbqcre. 'rjyjvbre. Åckb gjkj;tybt ltk yt bpvtybncz rfhlbyfkmyj
d ,kb;fqitt dhtvz (2015–2016
uu. ,eltn ljcnfnjxyj), nj frnbdyjt hfpdbnbt 'rjyjvbrb Ðjccbb ,tp
ghbdktxtybz byjcnhfyys[ bydtcnbwbq ,eltn ytdjpvj;yj. Âct gthtqlen
yf ce,cblbb ujcelfhcndf.
Âjn cevvf ghj,ktv. ß jny.lm yt jxthyz. cbnefwb., f crjhtt, gsnf.cm ghtlcnfdbnm htfkbcnbxyj.
×nj ghjbpjqltn c rjvgfybzvb yf hsyrt gjbcrjdjq htrkfvs d rhbpbc? Âs;bden kb vtkrbt, ecnjzn kb kblths?
Íf yfitv hsyrt vyjuj rhbpbcjd. Âyt pfdbcbvjcnb jn vfrhj'rjyjvbxtcrjq
cbnefwbb xfcnj ckexf.ncz kjrfkmyst rhbpbcs, yfghbvth, cdzpfyyst
c bpvtytybzvb d hf,jnt gjbcrjds[ cbcntv. Êkbtyns hfp,tuf.ncz — rjvgfybb
njyen.
Çf 15 ktn ceotcndjdfybz Ingate z dbltk ytcrjkmrj nfrb[ rhbpbcjd.
È d ,jkmibycndt ckexftd dc¸ pfrfyxbdftncz ntv, xnj djkyf ghj,ktv cvsdftn
yt,jkmibt rjvgfybb. Ïhjbc[jlbn ,scnhfz hjnfwbz, b yjdst buhjrb pfybvf.n
vtcnj enjyedib[.
Êhegyst ;t
rjvgfybb jcnf.ncz cnf,bkmysvb. Ó yfc ytn ctqxfc jcyjdfybq gjkfufnm, xnj
rhegyst rjvgfybb yf yfitv hsyrt cbkmyj gjcnhflf.n.
Åcnm kb ldb;tybt d cnjhjye rjycjkblfwbb yf hsyrt? Áelen kb
pfrhsdfnmcz rjvgfybb c gjcktle.obv b[ gjukjotybtv ,jktt rhegysvb
b ecgtiysvb rjyrehtynfvb?
×nj,s rhegyst rjvgfybb 'aatrnbdyj gjukjofkb vtkrbt, gjcktlybt ljk;ys
[jnm xnj-nj bvtnm pf leijq. Â ghjnbdyjv ckexft 'nb ckbzybz ,jkmit
hf,jnf.n yf gjgekzhbpfwb. yf hsyrt, yt;tkb yf abyfycjdst htpekmnfns.
Ñxbnf.,
xnj ytj,levfyyst cnhfntubb M&A (ckbzybz b gjukjotybz — ghbv.htl),
rjnjhst ghbvtyz.n yt ckbirjv ,jkmibt rjvgfybb r cjdctv vfktymrbv,
yt ghbdjlzn r ceotcndtyyjve hjcne abyfycjds[ gjrfpfntktq, f cjplf.n
ckj;yjcnb, cdzpfyyst c byntuhfwbtq, rekmnehysvb hfpkbxbzvb b cyb;tybtv
'aatrnbdyjcnb hf,jns.
Òtv
yt vtytt ljgecrf., xnj ghb jghtltktyys[ j,cnjzntkmcndf[ gjukjotybz
b ckbzybz vjuen ,snm wtktcjj,hfpysvb rfr hfp dj dhtvz rhbpbcf. Íj lkz
'njuj ye;yj, xnj,s e rjvgfybb ,skb kb,j dyeibntkmyst cj,cndtyyst
htpthds, kb,j jxtym [jhjibt rhtlbnyst djpvj;yjcnb (c njxrb phtybz
djpvj;yjcnb gjkexbnm ltymub gjl ybpre. 'aatrnbdye. cnfdre), rjnjhst
gjpdjkzn tq vfcinf,bhjdfnmcz d rhbpbc lf;t kexit, xtv hfymit.
Êfrbv ns dblbim hsyjr gjbcrjdjuj ghjldb;tybz d 2015 ujle?
SEO yt gjrfpsdftn ghbpyfrb edzlfybz yf hfpdbns[ hsyrf[. Îyj
nhfycajhvbhetncz, dbljbpvtyztncz dvtcnt c bynthytnjv. Ïjrf tcnm
gjnht,yjcnm yf[jlbnmcz d gjbcrt — ye;yj SEO. Íbrelf jyj yt ltytncz.
Äheujt ltkj, xnj vtyztncz gjdtltybt gjkmpjdfntktq, gj'njve, crjhtt
dctuj, gjbcr ,eltn aeylfvtynfkmyj gthtcnhfbdfnmcz. Ífghbvth,
dthnbrfkmyst cthdbcs e;t ctujlyz pfybvf.n jxtym cbkmye. gjpbwb.. Îyb
lf.n djpvj;yjcnm gjkmpjdfntkzv ,scnhj b rfxtcndtyyj abkmnhjdfnm
bvt.oe.cz byajhvfwb. d rfrb[-nj rjyrhtnys[ j,kfcnz[, yfghbvth, d j,kfcnb
ghjlf; fdbf,bktnjd bkb gjbcrf jntkz. ×tcnyjt ckjdj, z e;t yt pyf. njuj,
rnj botn jntkb d ßyltrct. Ífdthyjt, njkmrj nt, rnj yt pyftn
Booking.cjm, Airbnb b fyfkjubxyst cthdbcs. Òfrbt k.lb tcnm, yj b[ dct
vtymit.
ß [jxe
crfpfnm, xnj gjnht,yjcnb felbnjhbb eljdktndjhz.ncz ytcrjkmrj byfxt,
b 'nj dbljbpvtyztn gjbcr. Â cdzpb c 'nbv nhfycajhvbhjdfybt eckeu
d futyncndf[ nht,etn jghtltk¸yys[ ecbkbq. Â 'njv ytn ybxtuj cnhfiyjuj.
Ýnj yt ckj;ytt njuj, xnj vs e;t vyjuj hfp ltkfkb. Íflj ghjcnj gjcnjzyyj
exbnmcz.
Êhegyst rjvgfybb, nfrbt rfr ßyltrc b Google, yf cdjtq gkfnajhvt
gsnf.ncz gjcnhjbnm dc¸, xnj njkmrj djpvj;yj (ßyltrc.Îcnhjdf,
hfcibhtyyst gjbcrjdst gjlcrfprb, dthnbrfkmyst cthdbcs gj ytldb;bvjcnb,
lkz fdnjk.,bntktq b nfr lfktt). Êfr ,eltn vtyznmcz hf,jnf futyncndf
Ingate d cdzpb c 'nbv?
Ïjxtve ns djcghbybvftim yfie rjvgfyb. njkmrj rfr futyncndj?
Ingate njkmrj yf jlye gjkjdbye futyncrbq ,bpytc, yf dnjhe. — nt[yjkjubxtcrbq.
Ingate Digital Agency ,eltn ltkfnm nj ;t cfvjt, gjnjve xnj futyncndj
ghjlftn yt rfyfks, yt gkfnajhvs, f rjvgtntywbb. Âct eckj;ytybz, rjnjhst
ghjbpdjlzn rhegyst rjvgfybb yf cdjb[ gkfnajhvf[, nht,e.n dc¸ ,jkmit
b ,jkmit pyfybq. Çyfxbn, ytj,[jlbvs nt, e rjuj jyb tcnm. Êjulf e nt,z
15 ktn rjvgtntywbq pf cgbyjq, ns ujhfplj 'aatrnbdytt b ,scnhtt cltkftim
'ne hf,jne.
Àutyncndj Ingate hfpdbdftncz gfhfkktkmyj c hsyrjv. Ó;t c yfxfkf 2014
ujlf vs dpzkb rehc yf performance-vfhrtnbyu, rjnjhsq d ysytiytq cbnefwbb
yf,bhftn dct ,jkmie. gjgekzhyjcnm chtlb htrkfvjlfntktq.
Ñ extnjv dctuj dsitcrfpfyyjuj ('rjyjvbxtcrfz cbnefwbz d cnhfyt,
bpvtytybz yf hsyrt bynthytn-htrkfvs) rfrbv ,sk 2014 ujl lkz [jklbyuf
Ingate?
Ó yfc ,sk jxtym cbkmysq ujl. Îy ,sk rhfqyt ckj;ysv, yj jxtym
ghjlernbdysv. Çf 'njn ujl vs ghjdtkb njnfkmye. lbdthcbabrfwb. ,bpytcf.
Âsltkbkb b pfgecnbkb d cdj,jlyjt gkfdfybt yfghfdktybt SMM — ntgthm 'nj
cfvjcnjzntkmyjt futyncndj Another Point .
Çfgecnbkb cthdbcs CUBO.RU, Uptimus, Oh, My master b dtyxehysq ajyl. È yf 100% gthtltkfkb cnhernehe eghfdktybz jhufybpfwbtq.
Ñtujlyz vs e;t yt eybnfhyjt ghtlghbznbt, f crjhtt bycnbnewbjyfkmyfz
[jklbyujdfz jhufybpfwbz. Ñnhernehf, ult vyjuj utythfkmys[ lbhtrnjhjd,
e rf;ljuj bp rjnjhs[ cjdthityyj hfpyst rjvfyls b cdjb P&L
(eghfdktyxtcrbq jnxtn j ghb,skb b e,snrf[ — ghbv.htl). Âc¸ 'nj gjpdjkztn
,jktt ctuvtynyj htifnm gjnht,yjcnb hfpys[ rkbtynjd.
Íf rfrb[ rkbtynjd hfccxbnfys lfyyst yfghfdktybz b cthdbcs (vfksq/chtlybq/rhegysq ,bpytc)?
Ñtujlyz [jklbyu j[dfnsdftn ghfrnbxtcrb 80% gjnht,yjcntq dct[ rkbtynjd d j,kfcnb bynthytn-htrkfvs:
- Another Point — vfhrtnbyujdsq rjycfknbyu lkz jxtym rhegys[ rkbtynjd.
- Ingate Digital Agency — performance-vfhrtnbyu lkz rhegyjuj, f nfr;t ecnjqxbdjuj b ecgtiyjuj chtlytuj, xfcnbxyj vfkjuj ,bpytcf.
- Rookee b Cubo.ru — fdnjvfnbpbhjdfyyst cbcntvs htrkfvs d bynthytnt
(lf, ntgthm yt njkmrj ghjldb;tybz) lkz vfkjuj b chtlytuj ,bpytcf.
- Uptimus — ghbywbgbfkmyj yjdsq ghjlern buhjdjuj
ajhvfnf, ult rkbtyn vj;tn htibnm cdjb djghjcs ifu pf ifujv, gj rjgttxrt
b 'aatrnbdyj. Ítpfvtybv lkz vbrhj,bpytcf.
Ýnj dct vj;yj ljdjkmyj ljkuj gthtxbckznm. Ãkfdyjt, xnj ctujlyz vs 'nj
ltkftv ,kfujlfhz njve, xnj d ntxtybt wtkjuj ujlf, pfcexbd herfdf,
rjvfylf vtytl;vtynf Ingate dct gthtcnhfbdfkf. È vs cgjcj,ys 'nj
gthtdfhbnm bvtyyj rfr rjvgfybz: e yfc gthtpfgeotys gjl 'nj IT, HR, dct
byahfcnhernehyst yfghfdktybz.
Ñthdbcs fdnjvfnbpfwbb ghbpdfys cltkfnm eckeub ljcnegytt. Ýnj [jhjibq ds[jl d cbnefwbb 'rjyjvbxtcrjuj rhbpbcf?
Äf, bvtyyj gj'njve Uptimus ctqxfc dspsdftn ,jkmijq bynthtc
e felbnjhbb. Íbrfr yt ghjldbufz b yt htrkfvbhez cthdbc, vs e;t jrfpsdftv
eckeub nsczxfv gjkmpjdfntktq. Ñthdbc ,sk pfgeoty d jrnz,ht,
b pf 4 vtczwf tuj ceotcndjdfybz vs gjkexbkb juhjvyjt rjkbxtcndj
gjkj;bntkmys[ jnpsdjd. Òfr xnj d ntxtybt ,kb;fqib[ lde[ rdfhnfkjd k.lb
ltqcndbntkmyj gjxedcnde.n yf ct,t tuj fynbrhbpbcye. gjllth;re.
 2012 ujle futyncndj Ingate gjpbwbjybhjdfkj ct,z
rfr rjvgfybz, «rjnjhfz ghtljcnfdkztn eckeub bp jlyjuj jryf». Ïjxtve
ds htibkb dsltkbnm yfghfdktybt SMM bp Ingate Digital Agency d jnltkmysq
,bpytc?
Äf, ltqcndbntkmyj, futyncndj bpyfxfkmyj cnhjbkjcm rfr byntuhbhjdfyysq
,bpytc, bp jlyjuj jryf jrfpsdf.obq eckeub jlybv b ntv ;t rkbtynfv.
Íj vs gjyzkb, xnj d hfvrf[ 'nb[ yfghfdktybq ceotcnde.n hfpyst rkbtyns
c hfpysvb gjnht,yjcnzvb, b dthyekbcm r cnhfntubb «ybitdbpfwbb»
yfghfdktybq ltzntkmyjcnb.
Ìs cjplfkb futyncndj Another Point, ytcgtiyj dsltkzz tuj d jnltkmye.
cfvjcnjzntkmye. rhegye. cnhernehe yf ghjnz;tybb lde[ ktn, frrehfnyj
cjplfdfz cbkmye. rjvfyle c cjdthityyj lheubv gjl[jljv r jrfpfyb. eckeu.
Ñtqxfc nfv 70 xtkjdtr.
Ìs cltkfkb
Another Point futyncndjv, rjnjhjt vj;tn jceotcndkznm vfhrtnbyujdsq
rjycfknbyu gj ibhjrjve yf,jhe wtktq lkz jxtym rhegyjuj ,bpytcf.
 nj dhtvz rfr IDA cjdthitycndetn cdjb rjvgtntywbb d j,kfcnb
performance-vfhrtnbyuf.
Êfrjdf ghjwtynyfz ljkz eckeu gjbcrjdjuj vfhrtnbyuf d j,otq dshexrt [jklbyuf?
40%. Ïk.c ,jkmifz ccskjxyfz ljkz (ROOKEE, Cubo — ghbv. htl). Âghjxtv, 'nj vj;yj jnytcnb r SEO, njulf ult-nj 60%.
×nj nfrjt Ingate Venture Fund?
Ìs cltkfkb jxtym bynthtcyjt ghtlkj;tybt lkz yfituj hsyrf — ujnjds
byntuhbhjdfnm d rjvgfyb. ljcnfnjxyj rhegyst futyncndf. Ýnj nj, j xtv
ns cghfibdfkf, rjulf vs ujdjhbkb j ckbzybz[ b gjukjotybz[, yj vs 'nj
ltkftv jxtym jcvscktyyj b gjcktljdfntkmyj. Åckb vs vj;tv lfnm futyncnde
ceotcndtyysq hjcn j,jhjnf b ghb,skb, nj vs 'nj ltkftv.
Íf lfyysq
vjvtyn yfif rjvgfybz ujnjdf bydtcnbhjdfnm d AdTech-ghjtrns, d htrkfvyst
cnfhnfgs. È vs ghjdjlbv ibhjrjvfcinf,ye. ltzntkmyjcnm gj bpextyb. hsyrf
d 'njq j,kfcnb, yfwtktyye. yf ,eleobt yfghfdktybz b ,eleobq hjcn. Ýnbv
b pfybvftncz Ingate Venture Fund.
Ìs ntcnbhetv hzl cj,cndtyys[ cnfhnfgjd, d xfcnyjcnb yf ghtlvtn
jnrhsnbz yjds[ lkz yfc hsyrjd. Ífghbvth, pfgecnbkb dthnbrfkmysq cthdbc
Oh, My master.
×tv pfybvftncz d rjvgfybb yfghfdktybt c rhfcbdsv yfpdfybtv Ingate Future?
 'njv yfpdfybb tcnm gjldj[ «IF» — «tckb». Ýnj jxtym bynthtcyjt
yfghfdktybt, rjnjhjt vs cjplfkb c vjbv gfhnythjv Àylhttv Ñvehsujdsv.
Àylhtq — jlby bp kexib[ byyjdfwbjyys[ ghjlernjds[ vtytl;thjd
«d ghbhjlt». Îcyjdyfz pflfxf IF — bcrfnm ghjhsd, cjplfdfnm htitybz,
rjnjhst ,elen... tcnm nfrjt jghtltktybt «Next big thing».
Uptimus b Oh, My master — 'nj ghtlntxb nt[ ghjlernjd, rjnjhst
vs gkfybhetv cjplfdfnm b hfpdbdfnm. È yt njkmrj yf hjccbqcrjv hsyrt.
Ìs frnbdyj ldbuftvcz d 'ne cnjhjye. Â ntxtybt 'njuj ujlf ,skf cjplfyf
rkfccyfz rjvfylf, gjhzlrf 40 xtkjdtr. Ìs bydtcnbhjdfkb d 'nj yjdjt
yfghfdktybt gjhzlrf 2 000 000 ljkkfhjd. Ìs afrnbxtcrb cjplfkb hflbrfkmyj
yjdsq ajhvfn R&D ltgfhnfvtynf (Research & Development —
ghbv.htl). È yfpdfkb tuj IF — gjnjve xnj, tckb 'nj ckexbncz, ,eltn jxtym
rhenj. È Future, gjnjve xnj jxtym cthmtpyj cvjnhbv d ,eleott.
Êf;lfz rjvgfybz ljk;yf cvjnhtnm yf 5–7
ktn dgthtl. Ìbh vtyztncz, b yf jcjpyfybt 'nb[ bpvtytybq ye;ys ecbkbz.
Ìs jxtym cthmtpyj hf,jnftv, xnj,s pyfnm, xnj ,eltn d ,eleotv.
Êfrbt tot gthtl dfvb cnjzn wtkb b pflfxb yf ,kb;fqibq ujl?
Ìs jxtym cbkmyj pfbynthtcjdfys d htubjyfkmyjv hfcibhtybb. Ó yfc gkfybhetncz jnrhsnbt ytcrjkmrb[ jabcjd d 'njv ujle.
Êfrbt ujhjlf d gkfyf[?
Ìs e;t jnrhskb htubjyfkmyjt ghtlcnfdbntkmcndj d Íjdjcb,bhcrt. Ïhj
jcnfkmyst ujhjlf gjrf ujdjhbnm hfyj, pfgecnbvcz, b vj;yj ,eltn
hfccrfpsdfnm.
Ïjxtve bvtyyj ctqxfc htibkb dsqnb d htubjys?
Ó yfc gjzdbkfcm djpvj;yjcnm lfnm htubjyfkmyjve ,bpytce [jhjibq ghjlern. Ýnj yfi yjdsq cthdbc CUBO.
Åcnm kb d Ingate ghjuhfvvf cjrhfotybz hfc[jljd? Áeltnt kb edjkmyznm gthcjyfk?
Ìs dthyj jwtybkb dthjznyjcnm yfcnegktybz rhbpbcf tot d yjz,ht
2013 ujlf. Ó;t njulf vs [jhjij gjybvfkb, xnj ye;yj dtcnb ct,z jxtym
frrehfnyj d gkfyt pfnhfn. Òt bp yb[, rjnjhst vj;yj ,skj aeylfvtynfkmyj
bcrk.xbnm, vs cjrhfnbkb. Ñtujlyz vs bcgjkmpetv uke,jrj ghjhf,jnfyye.
ghjuhfvve gjdsitybz 'aatrnbdyjcnb pfnhfn. Ájktt njuj, dc¸, xnj
yt gjpdjkztn yfv ljcnfdkznm yfibv rkbtynfv cxfcnmt bkb ghbyjcbnm
bv gjkmpe, vs jxtym frrehfnyj vtytl;thbv. Áerdfkmyj yf ehjdyt
t;tlytdyjuj hexyjuj eghfdktybz.
Ñ lheujq
cnjhjys, z dctulf jxtym ghjcnj cvjnh. yf gthcjyfk. Åckb nt,t ye;yj
edjkmyznm k.ltq bp-pf njuj, xnj jyb yt'aatrnbdys, pfxtv ns b[ nfrb[
yt'aatrnbdys[ yf,bhfk?
Ñ cthtlbys 2012-uj ujlf vs cjplfkb ghjuhfvve gj jgnbvbpfwbb rfxtcndf
gthcjyfkf. Ïj'njve d ntreotq cbnefwbb tckb d yfitq rjvgfybb b tcnm
yt'aatrnbdyst cjnhelybrb, nj b[ ybxnj;yjt rjkbxtcndj. È jyb, nfr bkb
byfxt, gjrbyen rjvgfyb., yj 'nj yt ,eltn cdzpfyj c rhbpbcjv
b cjrhfotybzvb.
Ó Àhntvbz Ët,tltdf ,sk gjcn «Ìj;yj kb ,snm edjktyysv pf vytybt?». Òs edjkbim pf dscrfpsdfybt, rjnjhjt bltn dhfphtp c ndjbvb df;ysvb bltfkfvb b wtyyjcnzvb?
Átp cjvytybz. ß pf vtymitt edjk..
Ïhfdlf kb, xnj d yfxfkt ndjtuj genb Àhntvbq Ët,tltd ,sk ntv xtkjdtrjv, rjnjhsq nt,z dlj[yjdkzk?
Äf, ltqcndbntkmyj. Ífdthyjt, ,kfujlfhz tuj rjvgfybb z ghbitk d bynthytn d 2000-jv ujle.
Òtgthm lkz vyjub[ d cdjtq rjvgfybb kblthjv b dlj[yjdbntktv zdkztimcz ns. Òs xedcndetim jndtncndtyyjcnm?
Óghfdkzz rjvgfybtq 15 ktn, jxtym xtnrj jcjpyftim, xnj ndjz vjltkm
gjdtltybz djkmyj bkb ytdjkmyj dkbztn yf ndjt jrhe;tybt. È e;t yt nfr
kturj yfgbnmcz d rheue dhjlt rfr ,kbprb[ k.ltq b nfywtdfnm yf cnjkt.
Äf xnj eujlyj — ghjcnj ,snm nfrbv, rfrbv byjulf [jxtncz ,snm. È 'nj hfp.
Ädf — rjulf cjwbfkmyst cdzpb ghbj,htnf.n ibhjrbq ajhvfn — e vtyz
vyjuj lheptq, vyjuj pyfrjvs[, vyjuj edf;ftvs[ vyj. k.ltq — ytkmpz htprj
dscrfpsdfnmcz j njv, xnj vj;tn pfltnm xe;bt xedcndf. Â 'njv tcnm ghbpyfr
ytphtkjcnb b ukegjcnb.
Òhb — vt;le ytnthgbvjcnm. b ,tc[ht,tnyjcnm. ye;ty ,fkfyc — edf;tybt r jrhe;f.otve vbhe.
Åckb ns cghjcbim, xedcnde. kb z jndtncndtyyjcnm rfr kblth, rfr
herjdjlbntkm jhufybpfwbb — lf, xedcnde. rf;lsq ltym. Âcnf. enhjv
c vsckzvb j yfitq rjvgfybb b pfcsgf. c ybvb.
Îndtnm, gj;fkeqcnf, yf yt,jkmijq ,kbw.
Ñfvst nfkfynkbdst cjdhtvtyyst ,bpytcvtys d bynthytn-catht?
ß jcnfyjdk.cm yf nfrjv jndtnt: jnvtxe Ìfhrf Öerth,thuf b jnvtxe Èkm.
Ñtufkjdbxf. Ïjnjve xnj Öerth,thu cltkfk nj, j xtv vs dct vtxnfkb,
f Ñtufkjdbx ghjcnj ,sk vfujv.
 rfrjq bynthytn-,bpytc ctqxfc drkflsdfnm dsujlytt dctuj?
 yfc.
Êfrfz cfvfz ,jkmifz ghj,ktvf hsyrf bynthytn-htrkfvs?
Ìtlktyysq hjcn rjvgtntywbq.
Ñfvfz ,jkmifz yflt;lf Ingate?
×nj,s yt ,skj djqys. Ðt,znf, djqys yt yflj.
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