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ß rfr j,sxyj gjckt rjyathtywbq cb;e d htcnjhfyt ujcnbybws
"Êjcvjc". Òfv cj,bhf.ncz ,kjrjdcrbt ytpyfrjvrb b lheubt cnhfyyst k.lb -
ghjcnj hzljv yf[jlbncz pfk c buhjdsvb fdnjvfnfvb nbgf "Çjkjnjq Àh,ep". È
dlheu d 'njv [fjct k.lcrb[ kbw z edbltk byntkkbutynyjuj xtkjdtrf, d
rjnjhjv ghbpyfk jhufybpfnjhf rjyathtywbb gj jgnbvbpfwbb Èujhz Àivfyjdf. Åcntcndtyyj, chfpe pf[jntkjcm dpznm e ytuj bynthdm..
- Èujhm, c,sdf.ncz kb ndjb fgjrfkbgcbxtcrbt ghjuyjps gj gjdjle rhf[f hsyrf gjbcrjdjq jgnbvbpfwbb?
- Äf, c,sdf.ncz. Ïjknjhf ujl fyfpfl z yf ÐÈÔt-2007 ghjxbnfk
pf;bufntkmye. htxm j njv, xnj vyjubt jgnbvbpfnjhs bvt.n gcb[jkjub.
ecgtiyjuj vtkrjuj ;ekbrf b fpfhn j,vfysdfnm gjbcrjdbrb, xnj "ßyltrc"
yfxy¸n vtyznm fkujhbnv b ,eltn gk.obnm jgnbvbpfnjhjd, f 'nj d cdj.
jxthtlm ghbdtltn r hfpjhtyb. vtkrb[ jgnbvbpfnjhcrb[ rjynjh. È cneltynfv,
fencjhcthfv ghbltncz e[jlbnm bp ,bpytcf. Òjulf yf vtyz dct
yf,hjcbkbcm - nbgf, Àivfyjd fgjrfkbgcbxtcrbt ghjuyjps ltkftn, f yfv yt
cnhfiyj. Ïecnm yfc yt geuftn. È djj,ot jy pfjlyj c "ßyltrcjv".
Òfrbv j,hfpjv, gthdsq vjq ghjuyjp gj gjdjle gcb[jkjubb fpfhnf b wbybpvf ecgtiyjuj ;ekbrf cnfk c,sdfnmcz chfpe – d jnrkbrf[ yf ljrkfl.
Ïhjuyjp j njv, xnj gjbcrjdbrb yfytcen cthb. elfhjd gj cfvsv vfccjdsv
c[tvfv hfcrhenrb, cnfk c,sdfnmcz yt chfpe, f gjcntgtyyj - d ntxtybt
2007-uj b gthdjq gjkjdbys 2008-uj ujljd. "ßyltrc" cyfxfkf jnrk.xbk fyrjhs. Ïjnjv yfxfkbcm cthmtpyst bpvtytybz d fkujhbnvf[ hfy;bhjdfybz, gjikb fgltqns, "Íf[jlrb" b "Ìfuflfys".
Ðfpjhtybt vfktymrb[ rjynjh b ahbkfycthjd yfxfkjcm e;t 'nbv ktnjv. Ê
yfv cnfkb j,hfofnmcz rkbtyns b ujdjhbnm, xnj e yb[ relf-nj ghjgfk
jgnbvbpfnjh. Èkb jy yt ghjgfk, yj cfqns d htpekmnfnf[ gjbcrf egfkb b jyb
yt pyf.n, xnj c 'nbv ltkfnm.
Ýnj dblyj yf hsyrt. Ìs 'nbv ktnjv ghjdjlbkb bccktljdfybz, jghfibdfkb
jgnbvbpfnjhcrbt rjynjhs. Ìs nfr;t yf,k.lftv pf hsyrjv nhelf, jghfibdftv
cdjb[ yjds[ rkbtynjd - jn rjuj jyb eikb b gjxtve.
À ghj,ktvf dcz d njv, xnj "ßyltrc" cnfk nfr ,scnhj b pyfxbntkmyj
bpvtyznm cdjq fkujhbnv, xnj vfktymrbt rjynjhs cnfkb yt cghfdkznmcz, nfr
rfr e yb[ ytn yb cthmtpyjuj fyfkbnbxtcrjuj jnltkf, yb j,jhjnys[ chtlcnd
lkz ,jkmib[ ccskjxys[ ,.l;tnjd. Â htpekmnfnt jyb yt vjuen j,tcgtxbnm
cnf,bkmyjcnm ,bpytcf - elth;fnm cfqns yf pfdjtdfyys[ vtcnf[. È jyb
e[jlzn bp ,bpytcf.
Åckb ;t vtkrbt jgnbvbpfnjhs yt e[jlzn bp ,bpytcf, nj pfxfcne.
ghjbc[jlbn vfhubyfkbpfwbz eckeub. Êfr hfp j, 'njv Êjycnfynby Øehsuby
ljrkfl ltkfk yf yfitq ysytiytq rjyathtywbb - j uhzpys[ nh.rf[
jgnbvbpfwbb, rjulf j,vfysdf.n rkbtynf, gjrfpsdfz tve htpekmnfns, rjnjhs[
yf cfvjv ltkt ytn. Ñrf;tv, e nt,z tcnm gjctoftvjcnm, yj gjnjv
hfp,bhfzcm, ns gjybvftim, xnj 'nj yfujyysq gecnjq nhfabr c ,jnytnjd bkb
xthtp ghjrcb d Ãdfntvfkt b Àdcnhfkbb. Èkb ndjq cfqn cjukfcyj jnx¸ne
jgnbvbpfnjhf gjdscbk dblbvjcnm gj vyj;tcnde pfghjcjd - yj lj njuj, rfr
ghbitk jgnbvbpfnjh, 'nb pfghjcs bvtkb yektde. xfcnjne, nj tcnm b[ ybrnj b
ybrjulf yt cghfibdfk. Íe b nfr lfktt. Îxtdblyj, tckb jgnbvbpfnjh yt
vj;tn ghjldbyenm, jy yfxbyftn ghblevsdfnm hfpyst vtnjls yfrhenrb
gjctoftvjcnb b jnx¸nyjcnb. Ýnj ytyfljkuj, gjcrjkmre ghjlf;b-nj yt
hfcnen. Íj 'nj gjpdjkztn ghjlth;fnmcz ytcrjkmrj vtczwtd.
È tot d ghjikjv ujls ,sk cltkfy ghjuyjp j njv, xnj dct, e rjuj
,jkmijq ,bpytc, ljk;ys ldbyenmcz d cnjhjye rjvgktrcyjuj vfhrtnbyuf. È
ltqcndbntkmyj, ctqxfc dct jgnbvbpfnjhcrbt rjynjhs jpf,jxtys, rfr
gjkexbnm gj,jkmit rjvbccbb e "ßyltrcf" b "Átueyf" yf rjyntrcnye.
htrkfve. À ytrjnjhst rjvgfybb gj jgnbvbpfwbb e;t pfyzkbcm b ghjlf;tq
vtlbqyjq htrkfvs. Ìs ctqxfc ghjldbuftv eckeue gj cjplfyb. rjvgktrcyjq
cnhfntubb ghbcencndbz b ghjldb;tybz ,bpytcf d Èynthytn, b tcnm e;t
gjlhf;fntkb.
Òfr xnj lf, ghjuyjps c,skbcm, yj 'nj yt gjnjve, xnj z ghjdbltw. À gjnjve, xnj 'nj ,skb dgjkyt jxtdblyst dtob.
- Ñjukfcty. Â ghbywbgt ljdjkmyj-nfrb f,cehlyj jrfpsdfnm
njkmrj eckeue gj dsdjle cfqnf yf rfrbt-nj vtcnf xthtp nhb vtczwf. Íj yt
rf;tncz kb nt,t, xnj ghj,ktvs c yjdsvb fkujhbnvfvb "ßyltrcf" djpybrkb
njkmrj e nt[ k.ltq, rnj d vfktymrb[ rjynjhf[ dsgjkyzk vyjuj lheub[
aeyrwbq, gjvbvj jgnbvbpfwbb. Ífghbvth, cjplfybt cfqnjd b j,cke;bdfybt
rjvgm.nthjd?
- Ítn, gjxtve ;t. Ïj gjdjle fkujhbnvjd "Íf[jlrf" b "Ìfuflfy" yf
jgnbvbpfnjhcrb[ ajhevf[ ,skj jxtym vyjuj aktqvjd. Ó rjuj xnj egfkj b
gjlyzkjcm, j,ce;lfkb b k.lb bp rhegys[ b chtlyb[ rjynjh.
- È xnj, rjynjhs gj jgnbvbpfwbb bp-pf 'njuj pfrhsdf.ncz?
- Ít dct. Òt rjynjhs, d rjnjhs[ ltcznjr-lheujq jgnbvbpfnjhjd b
rjnjhst drkflsdf.n ltymub d fyfkbnbre b bvt.n j,jhjnyst chtlcndf lkz
elth;fybz gjpbwbq d ckexft htprb[ fgltqnjd - crjhtt dctuj, yt
pfrhsdf.ncz. À nt, e rjuj cjctlcrbq vfkmxbirf ltkfk jgnbvbpfwb. b
rjnjhst ,hfkb c rkbtynf 10.000 he,ktq d vtczw - yfdthyjt, pfrhsdf.ncz,
nfr rfr ctqxfc yt pyf.n, xnj ltkfnm.
- Ñtqxfc dcz cnhfyf dskj;bkf lfyyst j ct,t d cjwbfkmys[
ctnz[ - "Îlyjrkfccybrb", "Ârjynfrnt"... Ítrjnjhst hfpdtlxbrb lf;t gbien
ctrhtnyst lfyyst ghj "ltdzne. hjne", rjnjhe. jyb yt dslfkb ,s lf;t gjl
gsnrfvb. Ít rf;tncz nt,t, xnj d cdzpb c 'nbv nthztn frnefkmyjcnm eckeuf
jgnbvbpfwbb? È djj,ot jyf crjhj evhtn, tckb dthbnm Ët[t. Â j,otv, k.ltq pfvtyzn vfibys. Ïkfcnvfccjdsq vbh gj,tlbn.
- Äf, gj,tlzn hj,jns. À tot ujdjhzn, xnj ,eltn bcreccndtyysq
byntkktrn, rjnjhsq pfvtybn dhfxtq b exbntktq. È celtq, cfvjt ukfdyjt.
Ýnj nfrfz ,fcyz, rjnjhe. cnjhjyybrb ÈÈ hfccrfpsdf.n e;t ktn 40.
- Äf, celtq c b[ pfhgkfnfvb...
- Ñfvjt ukfdyjt yt d pfhgkfnf[. À d njv, xnj celmz gj bltt bvttn
cjdtcnm b ytc¸n jndtncndtyyjcnm – eujkjdye. b uhf;lfycre. – pf cdjb
htitybz. Â rhfqytv ckexft, pf ytghfdtlyjt htitybt tuj vj;yj dcnhtnbnm c
vjkjnrjv d gjl]tplt. À c hj,jnf rfr cghjcbim?
Õjnz c ghjuhfvvjq-celmtq - lkz dkfcnb jxtym elj,yj. "Îib,rf? Ïjdtcbkb
yt njuj? Òfr hj,jnf e;t hfpj,hfkb, 'nj ;t ghjcnj ghjuhfvvyfz jib,rf.
Ñtqxfc e;t dct pfgfnxtyj, vs pfrfxfkb yjde. dthcb. ÏÎ b dct ,eltn
yjhvfkmyj. Êfrbt ghtntypbb?"
- Òfr z r xtve dtle: yt gjhf kb e;t jhufybpjdfnm rjyathtywbb yf ntve, rfr [frfnm cjwbfkmyst ctnb?
- Ájkmibycndj rhegys[ rjvgfybq e;t pfybvf.ncz rjvgktrcysv ghjldb;tybtv d cjwbfkmys[ ctnz[. Êjulf cghjcbkb Ä;taahb Ïhebnnf
j ccskjxys[ ,.l;tnf[ b ufhfynbz[ ghjldb;tybz, jy crfpfk: "Íe, ht,znf e
dfc ghzvj rfr 2001 ujl d ÑØÀ. Ó yfc lfdyj e;t 'njuj ytn. Òj, xtv z
pfybvf.cm, yfpsdftncz bynthytn-vfhrtnbyu".
Ífghbvth, e yfitq rjvgfybb tcnm eckeuf - cnhfntubz ghbcencndbz d
Èynthytnt. Ýnj gjdsitybt yt njkmrj dblbvjcnb d gjbcrjdbrf[, 'nj
gjdsitybt dblbvjcnb dtplt d Ñtnb. Â ghbywbgt, ghjatccbjyfkmyst gbfhobrb d
jakfqyt ntv ;t pfybvf.ncz. Ít df;yj, dtiftim kb ns ,bk,jhl bkb yf
ntktdbltybt ghjuhfvve ltkftim, ult dscnegftim rfr 'rcgthn. Ýnj dct
ghjcnj rfyfks, gjdsitybt j,otq dblbvjcnb - nj tcnm pfyznbt vtcnf d evt
gjkmpjdfntkz. Âblbim, gj ckjdfv Ïhebnnf, d ÑØÀ rfr nfrjdjq jgnbvbpfwbb
e;t ytn. Ó yb[ e;t ytkmpz vt[fybxtcrb regbnm ccskjr, ye;yj [jlbnm gj
,jkmibv cfqnfv b gjregfnm nfv ccskrb b htrkfve. Äkz yb[ 'nj e;t ghjcnj
"gkfnyfz htrkfvf" dct[ dbljd. Îyb ghjcnj gjdsif.n dblbvjcnm dtplt.
- Íe d njv ;t ujle yf rjyathtywbb ,sk ljrkfl ghj pfgflys[ ccskjxys[ ,hjrthjd, fyfkjujd Sape...
- Ìs cghfibdfkb Ïhebnnf, e ytuj dhjlt cfvfz ,jkmifz rjvgfybz - 600
xtkjdtr d infnt, 60 vky. ljkkfhjd j,jhjn, ytcrjkmrj jabcjd d ÑØÀ b
Ådhjgt. Îy ujdjhbn: "Äf, yfdthyjt,ult-nj tcnm ,bh;b ccskjr. Íj 'nj
fyltuhfeyl. Ýnj xthyst vtnjls gkj[b[ gfhytq. Ó ghbkbxys[ gfwfyjd - 'nj
pfgflkj. Âtlm Ãeuk htfkmyj pf 'nj yfrfpsdftn". Òj tcnm dhjlt ,s 'nj
e;t eikj. Êfyfkjd ghjldb;tybz e;t jxtym vyjuj, b jyb ,then ltymub pf
rjvgktrc. Ïhjlf.n vtlbqre, rjyntrcn, cjwbfkmyjt ghjldb;tybt. Ïhbxtv dct
'nj edzpsdf.n d hfvrf[ jlyjuj vtlbfgkfyf. È pltcm ,eltn nj ;t cfvjt.
- Îgsn gjctotybz ndjb[ rjyathtywbq gjrfpsdftn, xnj cnfkb
bpvtyznmcz kbwf exfcnybrjd - ghjatccbjyfkmys[ jgnbvbpfnjhjd. Â 2002 ujle
,skb nfrbt dct vjkjlst, ;f;leobt gjpyfybq. Ñghfibdfkb lheu lheuf: "À ns
rnj yf ajhevt?". Ñtqxfc ;t jgnbvbpfnjhs - cgjrjqyst b csnst d gkfyt
pyfybq. Òece.ncz d rekefhf[, jcj,j yt cnhtvzncz gjckeifnm ljrkfls...
Ìj;tn, gjhf e;t pdfnm yf rjyathtywbb hfpys[ gkj[b[ ht,zn - ljhdtqobrjd,
flfkmn-dt,vfcnthjd?
- Ít yflj, pfxtv? Çfxtv yfv vfhubyfks? Ó yb[ tcnm cdjz rjyathtywbz
Income Conf. Ïecnm nfv nece.ncz b hfpsuhsdf.n Ëtrcecs lkz kexib[
cgfvthjd.
Íf cfvjv ltkt b[ dsntcyz.n yf gthbathb.. Íe ghtlcnfdm - ,skf
uhf;lfycrfz, gfhnbpfycrfz djqyf. Òfv vjukj bvtnm pyfxtybt yf cnsxrt
lde[ rfpfxmb[ hfp]tpljd, rnj kexit cnhtkztn b vfitn ifirjq. À ctqxfc
bc[jl chf;tybq htiftn htuekzhyfz fhvbz c ,jkmibvb djqcrjdsvb jgthfwbzvb,
nfyrfvb, hfpdtlrjq, fdbfwbtq.
Òs tot crf;b - gjxnjds[ cgfvthjd pdfnm... Ñgfv, rcnfnb, lkz
vbrhj,bpytcf - cfvfz 'aatrnbdyfz htrkfvf. Ätitdfz b j[dfn ,jkmijq.
Ñtqxfc djn jgznm rjkbxtcndj cgfvf edtkbxbkjcm d ldf hfpf. Íj dtlm
yjhvfkmyst rjvgfybb yt ,elen bv gjkmpjdfnmcz, 'nj ,jkmijq htgenfwbjyysq
hbcr. À rkbtyns, rjnjhst ghb[jlzn – vtkrbt b ,tcgjhjlyst.
- Íj bcnjhbb xtcnys[ jgnbvbpfnjhjd, 'nj rfr hfpujdjhs xtcnys[
k.ltq j gjhzljxyjcnb. Âct ghfdbkmyj, yj crexyjdfnj. Äheujt ltkj, rjulf
yf ÊÈÁt dsitk Ãktqpth b hfccrfpfk jnrhjdtybz ghj "Ðtlnhfv" b gjregre nhfabrf. È lf;t pfgfkbk cfqns... rjyrehtynjd.
- À ,skb kb 'nj jnrhjdtybz? Èkb ghjcnj ghjdjrfwbz ,tp rjyrhtnbrb?
Çltcm vs yt ltkfkb ljrkfls ghj ghjlf;e nhfabrf. Òfrbt ntvs ,jkmit
gjl[jlzn lkz Etarget. Ñntgfy Åhtvby j,sxyj bynthtcyj hfccrfpsdftn j
gjregrt yjdjcnyjuj nhfabrf d ctnb "Íjdjntrb".
À pltcm exfcnybrb rjyathtywbq - yf 70% rkbtyns. Ïhjdjlbnm
rjyathtywbb, jhbtynbhezcm yf ghjatccbjyfkmys[ jgnbvbpfnjhjd, ytdsujlyj b
ytbynthtcyj. Îyb ;t yt,kfujlfhys. "Äf vs 'nj dc¸ lfdyj pyftv, ybrnj yt
gfkbn ntvs, 'nj dct yt nj b yt nfr". Òs b[ rjhvbim, gjbim, hfpdktrftim. À
jyb ujdjhzn - "lf ns rjptk, f vs rhext".
Ãkfdyjt gjpbwbjybhjdfybt rjvgfybb "Àivfyjd b gfhnyths" hfccxbnfyj yf
hfp]zcytybt xfqybrfv, rfr dct ecnhjtyj d cnhfyyjv vbht Èynthytnf. Ìs
yfdjlbv ghjphfxyjcnm lkz ytghjatccbjyfkjd. Òfr xnj rjyntyn e yfc – lkz
rkbtynjd. Âdjlyfz xfcnm, 'aatrnbdyjcnm, ds,jh b rjynhjkm bcgjkybntkz,
ds,jh vtnjljd, hfcx¸n ,.l;tnjd, ytxtcnyst nh.rb bcgjkybntktq, jgznm
fyfkbp 'aatrnbdyjcnb b n.g. Ìs dtoftv yt lkz ghjatccbjyfkmyjuj
cjj,otcndf.
Òj, xnj vs lftv ghjatccbjyfkfv – 'nj gkjoflrf lkz j,otybz cjj,otcndf b
rkbtynjd. Ïkj[j, tckb xfqybrb gjgflen r cjctlcrjve vfkmxbirt. Åo¸ [e;t –
tckb r iecnhjq b yt j,htvty¸yyjq vjhfkm. jgnbvbpfnjhcrjq rjynjht,
ujdjhzotq yf yf ytgjyznyjv gnbxmtv zpsrt b vjhjxfotq ujkjde.
Î,sxyj, rjulf dcnhtxf.ncz ldf xtkjdtrf - jlby c jgsnjv, f lheujq c
ltymufvb, jyb j,vtybdf.ncz. Ó jlyjuj cnfyjdbncz ,jkmit jgsnf, f e
lheujuj ,jkmit ltytu. ×nj,s 'nj ghtljndhfnbnm, vs lftv jnrhsne. gkjoflre
lkz j,otybz rkbtynf b jgnbvbpfnjhjd. Õjxtim j,ofnmcz? Ïhb[jlb! Äf;t djn
pfqnb vj;yj yf dscnfdre ,tcgkfnyj.
Õjxtim r ct,t pfpsdfnm rkbtynjd? Ätkfq ljrkfl, ,thb cntyl, rkflb d
cevre yf rjyathtywbb bkb yf cntylt regjys yf crblre. Ålbycndtyyjt
juhfybxtybt – ljrkfls ljk;ys ,snm bynthtcyst b yt htrkfvyst.
Ìs rfr jhufybpfnjhs yt ,jbvcz rjyrehtywbb. Ìs dct rjyathtywbb Etarget
b Optimization gjdthyekb r rkbtynfv b gjpbwbjybhetvcz lkz yb[.
- Ïjyzk. Äfdfq dthytvcz r ghjldb;tyb. d cjwbfkmys[ ctnz[. Ñrf;b, gj;fkeqcnf, xnj ns levftim ghj SMO b "cvjxyjt ghjldb;tybt"?
- Òs pyftim, nfv jxtym nhelyj ghjuyjpbhjdfnm b ghtlcrfpsdfnm
htpekmnfns. È jxtym ckj;yj dthbabwbhjdfnm. Ítn gjyznys[ wty, vtnjljd b
n.g. Òt,t ujdjhzn, xnj djn ctqxfc vs cltkftv dbhec. Íj ghjdthbnm nfre.
hf,jne jxtym nhelyj. Ítrjnjhst rjvgfybb vjuen yfltkfnm dbhnefkjd,
cjplfnm dbhnefkmyst ,kjub, yfltkfnm ,jlhzxrjd, pfkbyrjdfnm b[. Î,vfyenm,
d j,otv, pfrfpxbrf. È nen ytjgsnyjve rkbtyne jxtym nhelyj dsxbckbnm b[.
Åcnm b ghbkbxyst rjvgfybb, rjnjhst pfybvf.ncz njkmrj cjwbfkmysvb
ctnzvb. Ìs yfybvftv b[ rfr ce,gjlhzlxbrjd d ckexft pfrfpjd b cvjnhbv pf
bcgjkytybtv. Íf Etarget e yfc ,eltn gfhf gjlj,ys[ ljrkfljd, yj pltcm
gjrf yt gkfybhetv.
- Íj hfpdt yt pfvtnyj fyfkjubb vt;le ysytiytq cbnefwbtq c
cjwbfkmysvb ctnzvb b ntv, rfr 'nj ,skj c gjbcrjdbrfvb? Ðfymit dct
levfkb, rfr ghjjgnbvbpbhjdfnmcz gjl htpekmnfns gjbcrf, b 'nj ,skj cdjtuj
hjlf "gjlgjkmysv pyfybtv". Ñtqxfc e;t gjyznys cnhfntubb, lf b
gjbcrjdbrb e;t cfvb hfccrfpsdf.n j, 'njv. À c cjwbfkmysvb ctnzvb ytn
ybrfrb[ dyznys[ ghbvthjd. ß djn bvtk ytrbq jgsn hf,jns c ybvb - d
htpekmnfnt jrfpfkcz pf,fytyysv dj dct[ djpvj;ys[ cjwbfkmys[ ctnz[.
- Ñgfvbk, xnj kb?
- Ïj-hfpyjve. Ãlt-nj cgfvbk. Ãlt-nj gj ytpyfyb.. Âjn b
gjlevfkjcm - rjulf k.lb ,elen ltkbnmcz rtqcfvb j ghjldb;tybb d
cjwbfkmys[ ctnz[?
- Íf "Ånfhutnt". Íj kbxyj z gjrf yt gjqve, rfr hf,jnfnm c cjw.ctnzvb b
yt edthty cnfytn kb 'nj j,otq jnltkmyjq ntvjq. Èyjcnhfyws, rjnjhst
ghbtp;fkb, crfpfkb: e dfc nfrbt bynthtcyst fyfkbpfnjhs, vjk, ytkmpz kb
cjplfnm nfrbt ;t fyfkbpfnjhs gj cjwbfkmysv ctnzv?
Íj gj-vjtve, tot njkrjv ybrnj yt pyftn, rfr yf cjwbfkmys[ ctnz[
pfhf,jnfnm. Ítn tot nfrjq ,kbcnfntkmyjq bltb pfhf,jnrf lkz cjwctntq,
rfr cnfkf rjyntrcnyfz htrkfvf lkz gjbcrjdbrjd. Ïjbcrjdbrb nj;t yt pyfkb
ktn ctvm yfpfl, rfr pfhf,jnfnm. À gjnjv hfp – b dctv dc¸ zcyj, b ybrnj
yt gjvybn, rfrfz ytzcyjcnm ,skf lj njuj.
Âhjlt rf;tncz, ghjcntqifz bltz - "ghjlfq ckjdj". À gjxtve-nj lj ytt
lj[jlbkb ktn gznm. ×fcnj lj ghjcns[ bltq ljkuj lj[jlzn. Âjn lj bltb
xfcjd lkz bpvthtybz dhtvtyb jxtym ljkuj xtkjdtxtcndj lj[jlbkj. Çltcm
nj;t cfvjt.
Åot ghbvth: Ábkk Ãtqnc lkz ghjldb;tybz gfrtnf Excel cnfk ghjbpdjlbnm b
rkfcnm d rjhj,re c ÏÎ rjvgm.nthye. vsim, nfr rfr yb jlby ghjbpdjlbntkm
rjvgm.nthjd yt dthbk, xnj 'nf dtom gjqltn, b dct jnrfpsdfkbcm gjllth;fnm
'nj yfxbyfybt. Õjnz ctqxfc 'nj rf;tncz 'ktvtynfhyjq dtom.. Òj;t cfvjt c
rjyntrcnyjq htrkfvjq. Âjn Goto (dgjcktlcndbb Overture) rfpfkjcm kbxyj
vyt d 1999 rfrbv-nj f,cehljv - rfrbt-nj gkfnyst htpekmnfns gjbcrf.
Òj;t cfvjt c cjwbfkmysvb ctnzvb – ctqxfc ybrnj yt pyftn, rfr b[ yjhvfkmyj vjytnbpbhjdfnm.
- È Çfgfl yt pyftn?
- Ïj-vjtve, ytn. Ìj;tn, z xtuj yt pyf.. Íj tckb ,s ,skf rfrfz-nj
bltz, dct ,s e;t j ytq ujdjhbkb b tt ,s ,scnhj gthtyzkb. "Átuey" dtlm
nj;t ,sk cjplfy d 2002 ujle. Ífib jxtym ,scnhj rjgbhe.n. Ïhjcnj gjrf
ytxtuj rjgbhjdfnm.
Êjulf yfrjytw ghblevf.n, 'nj ,eltn rfpfnmcz ghjcnj jxtdblysv, rfr ctqxfc rjyntrcnyfz htrkfvf.
- Òdjt vytybt gj gjdjle rhbpbcf. Ýnj ckjdj yfdthyjt ctqxfc
cfvjt gjgekzhyjt. Ìyt kbxyj rf;tncz, xnj edtkbxbncz gjnht,ktybt
nefktnyjq ,evfub. Èkb ktrfhcnd - nfr rfr e k.ltq cnhf[b b hfccnhjqcndf.
Íj rfr 'nj gjdkbztn yf yfie jnhfckm?
- Íe, vj;tn, k.lb ,elen cvjnhtnm ,jkmit rbyj. Èkb xfot ,sdfnm d
yjxys[ rke,f[. Èkb tcnm. Åckb xtcnyj, yt pyf.. ßcyj, xnj d rhbpbc
,.l;tns c ntktdbltybz ljk;ys gthtntrfnm d Èynthytn. Òen htrkfvf ltitdkt,
ghjphfxytt, 'aatrnbdytt.
ß hfccghfibdfk cjnhelybrjd ctntq rjyntrcnyjq htrkfvs. Îyb ujdjhzn,
xnj evtymiftncz chtlybq xtr (pf jctym ghjwtynjd yf 7-10) b jcnfnrjd yf
cxtnf[ cnfyjdbncz vtymit. Òhfnzn nfr ;t, yj nt ;t cevvs rkflen gj
xfcnzv. Ñrf;tv, hfymit gjkmpjdfntkm dsnhfxbdfk 100 he,ktq d vtczw, f
ntgthm 900. Íj hfymit jy dc. cevve pfrkflsdfk pf hfp, f ntgthm jgfcftncz
b pfyjcbn nhb hfpf gj 300 he,ktq.
Íj lj[jls hfcnen. Çfvtlkbkcz j,obq hjcn rjyntrcnyjq htrkfvs, yj
hjcn-nj tcnm. Î, 'njv ;t ujdjhbkb Ëjvbpt b Îvtkmybwrbq e yfc yf
rjyathtywbb. Ó yfc ctqxfc d jgnbvbpfwbb b rjyntrcnt hjcn, vs yfybvftv
ghjlfdwjd.
Âjj,ot jn cgjrjqcndbz vj;tn vyjujt pfdbctnm. ß dhjlt hfccrfpsdfk 'ne
bcnjhb.? Ó Ãthvfyf Êkbvtyrj ,skj vyjuj ,bpytcjd (vfufpby, dbyyfz kfdrf,
felbnjhcrfz rjynjhf) b vtytl;ths cnfkb ghb[jlbnm r ytve d 1998 ujle b
cghfibdfnm: "×nj, Ãthf, pfrhsdftvcz?" Íf xnj Ãthvfy jndtnbk: "Åckb ,elen
ghj,ktvs, ghb[jlbnt, z ltytu lfv. Ïjrf hf,jnfqnt". È jyb cgjrjqyj
dscnjzkb b ybrnj pf ltymufvb yt ghbitk. À rnj-nj jn e;fcf pfrhskcz - b
,jkmit tuj d ,bpytct ytn.
Âjpvj;yj, ,bpytcvtyfv cnjbn ct,z dhtvtyyj juhfybxbnm d xntybb ufptn b cvjnhtybb ntktdbpjhf.
Ìj;yj egfcnm b gkfrfnm yf gjke jn njcrb b e;fcf, edjkmyznm k.ltq,
cjrhfofnm hfc[jls. Ìj;yj, yfj,jhjn, yfdfkbnmcz yf htrkfve b ghjlf;b. È
,jkmit eckeu ghjlfdfnm d rhbpbc, j,]zcyzz rkbtynfv, xnj d rhbpbc kexit
xthtp Èynthytn ghjlfdfnm.
Çfvtxe, xnj nt, rnj d rhbpbc ljnrjvjd (200-2001) yfdfkbkbcm yf
htrkfve b vfhrtnbyu, cnfkb gthdsvb d Ðeytnt. Äjcnfnjxyj gjcvjnhtnm yf
"ßyltrc".
Ìs ds,hfkb 'njn genm. Âhjlt ybxtuj, gjrf hfcntv. Ðsyjr yt bcxtpftn,
jy htcnhernehbhetncz. Îlby bp yfib[ rkbtynjd - ,fyr - cyzk htrkfve
bgjntrb b cnfk htrkfvbhjdfnm ekmnhfrjhjnrbt rhtlbns. Ó[jlzn rkbtyns gj
bgjntrt, pfnj ghb[jlzn nehbcns c htrkfvjq 'rpjnbxtcrb[ nehjd.
...Íj nen pfpdjybk ntktajy, b Èujhm Àivfyjd dpzk nhe,re. ß
ecksifk njkmrj j,hsdrb ahfp: "Õjhjij, Ävbnhbq Àyfnjkmtdbx, cltkftv
dbltj,kju b ghjldbytv tuj yf gthdjt vtcnj".
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