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Àylhtq Êepmvtyrjd yf[jlbncz d xbckt yfb,jktt bpdtcnys[
gthcjyfkbq hjccbqcrjuj bynthytn-vfhrtnbyuf. Êf;lsq, rjve bynthtcyj seo,
pyftn tuj rfr fdnjhf gjgekzhyjuj ,kjuf Ákjuguru,
cjnhelybrf bpdtcnytqitq abhvs «Àivfyjd b gfhnyths», cgtwbfkbcnf gj
gjbcrjdjve vfhrtnbyue b rjycfknbyue bynthytn-ghjtrnjd. Ñtujlyz Àylhtq
k.,tpyj cjukfcbkcz jndtnbnm yf djghjcs ghjtrnf allseo.ru.
- Àylhtq, Âs ghbikb d bynthytn-vfhrtnbyu d 2004 ujle. ×tv pfybvfkbcm ght;lt?
- Ïjbcrjdjq jgnbvbpfwbtq z edktrcz d 2003 ujle c gjlfxb Àyfhf
Áf,ftdf. Òjulf z b cjplfk cfqn “Ôen,jkmysq uehe” b yfxfk tuj
jgnbvbpbhjdfnm. Ïhbvthyj xthtp gjkujlf vtyz ghbukfcbkb d njkmrj xnj
cjplfyye. rjvgfyb. “WEB-Ëblth” jgnbvbpfnjhjv. Â nj dhtvz z exbkcz yf
nhtnmtv rehct ÌÃÓ (afrekmntn Âsxbckbntkmyjq vfntvfnbrb b rb,thytnbrb) b
jnyjcbkcz r gjbcrjdjq jgnbvbpfwbb rfr r xtve-nj ytcthmtpyjve. Äkz vtyz
yf njn vjvtyn 'nj ,skj dhtvtyysv pfyznbtv. Ïhbpyf.cm, jnyjitybt r
jgnbvbpfwbb z gjvtyzk njkmrj xthtp ytcrjkmrj ktn.
- Îoeoftnt yf cdjtv ,bpytct dkbzybt abyfycjdjuj rhbpbcf?
- ß tot yt dcnhtxfk yb jlyjuj rkbtynf, rjnjhsq ,s yt joenbk
abyfycjdsq rhbpbc. À pyfxbn, rhbpbc gjdkbzk yf dct rjvgfybb yf yfitv
hsyrt, ghjcnj yf rjuj-nj ,jkmit, yf rjuj-nj vtymit. Ífcrjkmrj vyt
bpdtcnyj, vyjubt rjvgfybb yf hsyrt SEO cthmtpyj gjnhtgfkj. ß j;blf.
pyfxbntkmyst gjldb;rb chtlb rjvgfybq r cthtlbyt ujlf.
- Êfr, gj Âfitve vytyb., rhbpbc jnhfpbncz yf seo b bynthytn-vfhrtnbyut?
- Êjvgfybb-rkbtyns cjrhfof.n ,.l;tns yf htrkfve kb,j djj,ot
cdjhfxbdf.n ghbcencndbt d Èynthytnt. Ñbnefwbz jckj;yztncz ntv, xnj
ybrnj yt pyftn, xnj ,eltn d 2009 ujle. Ìyjubt cxbnf.n, xnj ysytiyzz
cbnefwbz – 'nj tot yt rhbpbc, yfcnjzobq rhbpbc yfxytncz d yfxfkt ujlf.
 nfrb[ eckjdbz[ dct rjvgfybb cnfhf.ncz cjrhfnbnm hfc[jls, d njv xbckt
yf bynthytn-htrkfve.
Íj eckeub gjbcrjdjq jgnbvbpfwbb yf[jlzncz d ,jktt dsbuhsiyjv gjkj;tybb,
yt;tkb lheubt bycnhevtyns htrkfvs. Òfr, ytrjnjhst yfib rkbtyns
gjkyjcnm. jnrfpfkbcm jn jakfqy-htrkfvs, jcnfdbd njkmrj gjbcrjde.
jgnbvbpfwb. b rjyntrcnye. htrkfve. Âct-nfrb gjbcrjdfz jgnbvbpfwbz
j,tcgtxbdftn ghbnjr wtktdjq felbnjhbb pf pyfxbntkmyj vtymibt ltymub,
xtv lheubt htrkfvyst chtlcndf.
- Åckb ,s ctujlyz ghbikjcm htprj gjvtyznm cathe ltzntkmyjcnb, nj xtv ,s pfyzkbcm?
- Èynthtcysq djghjc. Íf lfyysq vjvtyn z yt ghtlcnfdkz. ct,z dyt
bynthytn-bylecnhbb. Ífdthyjt, jnrhsk ,s yt,jkmijq njhujdsq ,bpytc. À
vj;tn ,snm, gjt[fk ,s d lthtdy. rfhnjire cf;fnm.
- Êfrbvb ghjtrnfvb Âs ltqcndbntkmyj ujhlbntcm?
- Ãkfdyfz pflfxf bynthytn-vfhrtnjkjujd – hjcn ghjlf; e rkbtynjd.
Åckb c yfitq gjvjom. rkbtyn edtkbxbdftn cdjb ghjlf;b – 'nj e;t gjdjl
lkz ujhljcnb. Ê cxfcnm., e vtyz nfrb[ gjdjljd vyjuj. Ïj;fkeq, vj;yj
dsltkbnm ghjtrn ÃÄÅÝÒÎÒÄÎÌ.ÐÓ. Ìs hfpdbdftv 'njn cfqn c cfvjuj yfxfkf,
bcgjkmpez dtcm rjvgktrc eckeu bynthytn-vfhrtnbyuf.
- Êfrbv j,hfpjv cjdthitycndetntcm d SEO b vfhrtnbyut?
- Íbrfrb[ ctrhtnys[ vtnjlbr gjpyfybz SEO e vtyz yt ceotcndetn.
Íf,k.lf. pf rjkktufvb-rjyrehtynfvb, fyfkbpbhe. ecgtiyst/ytecgtiyst
ghjtrns, gk.c ghjdj;e yt,jkmibt 'rcgthbvtyns. Ó yfc d rjvgfybb c
bcgjkmpjdfybtv yjds[ vtnjlbr ghjldb;tybz dct d gjkyjv gjhzlrt. Ìs
gthbjlbxtcrb ghjdjlbv ctvbyfhs lkz cjnhelybrjd jnltkf, ult dct ltkzncz
jgsnjv lheu c lheujv. Êf;lsq ctvbyfh gjvjuftn yfv ltkfnm cdj. hf,jne
tot kexit.
- Åot d 2006 ujle Âs gbcfkb j cj,snbqyjv vfhrtnbyut. Ýnjn dbl vfhrtnbyuf gjkexbk hfpdbnbt d Âfitq ltzntkmyjcnb?
- Äf, ,tpeckjdyj. Äjkujt dhtvz z pfybvfkcz gjbcrjdjq jgnbvbpfwbtq
cfqnf, ghjlf.otuj ,bktns yf hfpkbxyst vthjghbznbz. Òjulf SEO lfdfkj
,scnhsq htpekmnfn, gj'njve c tuj gjvjom. vj;yj ,skj 'aatrnbdyj
htrkfvbhjdfnm rjywthns gjgekzhys[ bcgjkybntktq pf cxtn gjbcrjds[
pfghjcjd c ytpyfxbntkmyjq rjyrehtynyjcnm.. Ñtqxfc rjytxyj lkz 'njuj
kexit bcgjkmpjdfnm rjyntrcnye. htrkfve (cj,cndtyyj, nfr dct b
ltkf.n).Âghjxtv, tckb gjgekzhyjcnm ghtlcnjzotuj cj,snbz yfcnjkmrj
dtkbrf (yfghbvth, ghbtpl Ìfljyys d Ìjcrde bkb rhegyfz jnhfcktdfz
dscnfdrf), b e dfc tcnm pfgfc dhtvtyb, nj gjbcrjdfz jgnbvbpfwbz b d
'njv ckexft ,eltn jxtym 'aatrnbdyf.
- Î,ibhyst ctvfynbxtcrbt zlhf, gj Âfitve vytyb., – jlyj bp
cjcnfdkz.ob[ rjvgktrcyjuj bynthytn-vfhrtnbyuf. Ýnj nheljtvrjt ltkj
jghfdlsdftn ct,z?
- Âf;yj gjybvfnm, xnj, ghjldbufz cfqn gj 10-20 pfghjcfv, ds nthztnt
kmdbye. ljk. dfitq wtktdjq felbnjhbb. Ítlfdyj «ßyltrc» ghjdjlbk
bccktljdfybt pfghjcjd gjkmpjdfntktq r gjbcrjdjq vfibyt. Òfr djn,
dszcybkjcm, xnj 77% dct[ pfghjcjd r «ßyltrce» – ybprjxfcnjnyst. Ájkmibt
ctvfynbxtcrbt zlhf rfr hfp b ye;ys, xnj,s j[dfnbnm dtcm [djcn pfghjcjd.
Ïj yfitve jgsne, ghjldb;tybt gj ybprjxfcnjnysv pfghjcfv lftn ,jkmijq
nhfabr, nhfabr 'njn d ,jkmibycndt ckexftd jxtym b jxtym rfxtcndtyysq.
Ïhb 'njv rjyrehtywbz vbybvfkmyf. Ïjyznyj, xnj hf,jnf c ytcrjkmrbvb
cjnyzvb (f byjulf b nsczxfvb) pfghjcjd nht,etn ,jkmib[ dhtvtyys[
pfnhfn, yj 'aatrn jn 'njq hf,jns ds (bkb dfib rkbtyns) jwtybnt ,scnhj.
- Îxtym vyjubt jgnbvbpfnjhs ghtlgjxbnf.n hf,jne yf ct,z. Âs ;t
nhelbntcm d cjcnfdt bpdtcnyjq rjvgfybb. Ïjxtve ghtlgjxkb hf,jne d
rjkktrnbdt cfvjcnjzntkmyjq hf,jnt?
- Ìyt ,jkmit gj leit hf,jnf d rjvfylt. Íf hf,jnt z rf;lsq ltym
j,of.cm c evysvb k.lmvb, yf[j;e xnj-nj yjdjt, z dctulf d rehct cj,snbq
yf yfitv hsyrt. Äfktrj yt dctv ahbkfycthfv 'nj gjl cbke.
- Ât,-lbpfqyjv bynthtcetntcm bp xedcndf ghtrhfcyjuj bkb 'njn bynthtc yf[jlbn jnhf;tybt d hf,jnt?
- Äbpfqy cfqnf d gthde. jxthtlm ljk;ty gjvjufnm htifnm pflfxb cfqnf.
Îy ghbpdfy vfrcbvfkmyj eghjofnm ;bpym gjctnbntkzv cfqnf. Ê cj;fktyb., d
Ðeytnt lbpfqy ,jkmibycndf cfqnjd gjctnbntkzv 'nb[ cfvs[ cfqnjd ybrfr yt
gjvjuftn, f yfj,jhjn, vtiftn. Ýnbv djghjcjv vfkj rnj pfybvftncz
ghjatccbjyfkmyj.Âjn [jhjibq ghbvth: yf cfqnt ljcnfdrb ceib ntktajyysq
yjvth cltkfy yf ak'it b ghjcnj yt gjrfpsdftncz e vyjub[ gjkmpjdfntktq.
Íbult ,jkmit yf cfqnt yjvthf ntktajyf ytn. Ýnj jpyfxftn, xnj xfcnm
pfbynthtcjdfyys[ gjkmpjdfntktq ghjcnj ybxtuj yt cvj;tn pfrfpfnm yf
cfqnt b eqltn r rjyrehtynfv. Ýnj ;t ds,hjityyst ltymub. À ghb 'njv
rjvgfybz nhfnbn ltymub yf bynthytn-htrkfve.Ífif pflfxf ghb hf,jnt c
rkbtynfvb yt cdjlbncz njkmrj r dsdtltyb. jghtltktyys[ pfghjcjd d ÒÎÏ
gjbcrjds[ cbcntv, vs cnfhftvcz ekexibnm yf cfqnf[ rkbtynjd dct. Â njv
xbckt b lbpfqy.
- Åot d 2006 ujle Âs pflfkb djghjc: rjulf pfrjyxbncz bcnthbrf djrheu web 2.0? Ñtujlyz cbnefwbz ghjzcybkfcm?
- Ïhjzcybkfcm. Êhbpbc pfcnfdbk vyjub[ bydtcnjhjd pflevfnmcz, dj xnj
jyb drkflsdf.n cdjb ltymub. Âcgjvybnt, tot ytcrjkmrj vtczwtd yfpfl
yjdst cnfhnfgs jnrhsdfkbcm xenm kb yt rf;le. ytltk.. Ë.lb c ltymufvb
dbltkb, rfrbvb ntvgfvb hfcntn hsyjr, yfybvfkb rjvfyls cnfhnfgthjd,
gjhjq lf;t yt levfz, yf xtv jyb cj,bhf.ncz pfhf,fnsdfnm ltymub.
Èydtcnjhs lfdfkb ltymub gjl k.,jq ghjtrn, ukfdyjt, xnj,s d ytv ,skb
ckjdf “web 2.0” b “cjwbfkmyfz ctnm”. Ñtqxfc dct gjvtyzkjcm. Ïhjcnj nfr
ltymub gjl yjdst ghjtrns e;t ybrnj yt lftn, f ytrjnjhst cnfhst ghjtrns
gjnb[jymre evbhf.n, jcnfdibcm ,tp ltytu. Äevf., 'nj ,eltn [jhjibv
ehjrjv lkz dct[.
- Êfr-nj Âs pfvtnbkb, xnj rkbtynehf cnfyjdbncz dct ,jktt nht,jdfntkmyjq. Òtyltywbz cj[hfyztncz?
- Äf. Òht,jdfybz rkbtynjd gjcntgtyyj hfcnen. Îyj b gjyznyj, ghjlf;b
xthtp Èynthytn hfcnen, dct ,jkmit k.ltq ghjdjlzn dhtvz d Ñtnb.
Ódtkbxbdf.ncz b pfnhfns yf bynthytn-htrkfve. Åckb hfymit vyjubt
rjvgfybb yf htrkfve d Èynthytnt nhfnbkb ytcrjkmrj cjnty ljkkfhjd d
vtczw, nj ctqxfc cxtn bltn yf nsczxb, f ult-nj b ltcznrb nsczx ljkkfhjd
d vtczw. Ýnj ,jkmibt ltymub. Ïjyznyj, xnj pf yb[ rkbtyns [jnzn gjkexbnm
vfrcbvev. Ó rjuj-nj hfcnen nht,jdfybz r jnxtnysv vfnthbfkfv, rnj-nj
[jxtn gjkexfnm ljgjkybntkmyst eckeub. Âjn ytlfdyj ,sk ckexfq – rkbtyn
cnfk vthbnm 'aatrnbdyjcnm jgnbvbpfwbb yt gj gjpbwbzv d gjbcrjdbrf[, b
yt gj gjbcrjdjve nhfabre, f gj ÓÑÏÅØÍÛÌ pdjyrfv d rjvgfyb. (n.t. gj
pdjyrfv, gjckt rjnjhs[ d rjvgfybb pfrfpfkb eckeub). Èc[jlz bp 'njuj,
yfv ghbikjcm gthtcnhjbnm yfie hf,jne, xnj,s edtkbxbnm xbckj ecgtiys[
pdjyrjd gj yfb,jktt bynthtcysv lkz rkbtynf eckeufv.
- Êfr yf[jlbnt j,obq zpsr c rfghbpysvb rkbtynfvb?
- Êfr vyt rf;tncz, pfkju j,otybz c k.,sv rkbtynjv – vfrcbvfkmyfz
jnrhsnjcnm. Êkbtyn lfktrj yt dctulf gjybvftn, rfr bvtyyj hf,jnftn
jgnbvbpfwbz, gj'njve ye;yj dctulf gjlhj,yj hfccrfpsdfnm j njv, xnj
ghjbc[jlbn c tuj ghjtrnjv. Åckb xnj-nj bltn yt nfr, ye;yj j,]zcyznm,
gjxtve nfr ghjbc[jlbn b xnj ye;yj cltkfnm, xnj,s dct yfkflbkjcm. ×fcnj
djpybrftn cbnefwbz, rjulf yjdsq rkbtyn c ytljdthbtv jnyjcbncz r yfitq
hf,jnt. Ýnj yjhvfkmyj. Ïjcntgtyyj, gj vtht hfpdbnbz ghjtrnf, ytljdthbt
bcxtpftn.
- Êfr jwtybdftnt gthcgtrnbds kjrfkmyjuj gjbcrf?
- Ódthty, kjrfkmysq gjbcr d ,eleotv cnfytn jxtym gjgekzhysv. Ìfccf
k.ltq xthtp Èynthytn botn vfufpbys, fgntrb, ,fyrjvfns, fdnjcthdbcs b
tot rexe dctuj gj,kbpjcnb. À c hfpdbnbtv Èynthytnf e yfc d cnhfyt nfrb[
k.ltq cnfytn tot ,jkmit, ghbxtv yt njkmrj d Ìjcrdt. Ñtqxfc gjl[jlzob[
lkz 'njuj cthdbcjd d Ðeytnt zdyj ytljcnfnjxyj. Õjnz gthdst gjldb;rb d
'njv yfghfdktybb e;t tcnm – Google gj ytrjnjhsv “kjrfkmysv” pfghjcfv
dslftn cdjb rfhns d jcyjdyjq dslfxt, d «ßyltrct» ytrjnjhjt dhtvz yfpfl
ghjdjlbkbcm 'rcgthbvtyns c rfhnfvb d jcyjdyjq dslfxt. Â pfgflyjv
ctuvtynt Èynthytnf kjrfkmysq gjbcr e;t pfybvftn xenm kb yt ljvbybhe.ott
gjkj;tybt. Åuj ghtbveotcndf e;t gjxedcndjdfk vfksq ,bpytc – nsczxb
yt,jkmib[ rjvgfybq gsnf.ncz ghbdktxm gjkmpjdfntktq, pflf.ob[
“kjrfkmyst” pfghjcs. Âjpybr lf;t jnltkmysq hsyjr kjrfkmyjuj
bynthytn-vfhrtnbyuf – gjzdbkbcm cdjb 'rcgthns, cjj,otcndf. Âct 'nj
,eltn b e yfc. Íj lkz 'njuj gjbcrjdsv cbcntvfv ytj,[jlbvj frnbdytt
hfpdbdfnm 'nj yfghfdktybt, 'rcgthbvtynbhjdfnm c rfhnfvb b jcyjdyjq
dslfxtq b ekexifnm fkujhbnvs kjrfkmyjuj gjbcrf. Ïjrf ;t nhfabr yf
heccrjzpsxys[ rfhnjuhfabxtcrb[ cthdbcf[ ytdtkbr (ßyltrc.Àlhtcf b ßyltrc.Êfhns ).
Ó vfkjuj ,bpytcf ljk;ty gjzdbnmcz cnbvek hfpdbdfnm cdjt ghbcencndbt
d 'njv yfghfdktybb. Êfr njkmrj xthtp kjrfkmysq gjbcr ,eltn blnb
pfvtnysq nhfabr, bv yfxyen gjkmpjdfnmcz cfvb rjvgfybb b jgnbvbpfnjhs.
Ëjrfkmysq gjbcr gjpdjkbn ghbdktxm d Èynthytn yjds[ rkbtynjd – cjnyb b
nsczxb yt,jkmib[ ghtlghbznbq, lkz rjnjhs[ j,sxyfz gjbcrjdfz jgnbvbpfwbz
bkb rjyntrcnyfz htrkfvf yt'aatrnbdyf (cnjvfnjkjubb, fgntrb, vfufpbys,
fdnjcthdbcs, rfat b htcnjhfys).
- ×nj ;ltn, gj Âfitve vytyb., ybitdst cjj,otcndf, ntvfnbxtcrbt cjwctnb?
- Ñkj;ysq djghjc. Â ghbywbgt, vyjubt ybitdst cjj,otcndf e;t tcnm d
hfvrf[ j,sxys[ cjwbfkmys[ ctntq. Ífcrjkmrj ecgtiyj jyb ,elen
hfpdbdfnmcz dyt nhfabrjutythbhe.ob[ cjwctntq, crfpfnm yt ,thecm. Õjnz
bltz jxtym bynthtcyfz. Âjn, yfghbvth, tcnm hsyjr uhepjgthtdjpjr.
Òtvfnbxtcrfz ctnm, rjnjhfz ,s j,]tlbybkf juhjvyjt xbckj xfcnybrjd c
vfibyfvb b gjkmpjdfntktq, rjnjhsv ye;yj uhep jndtpnb, yf vjq dpukzl,
,skf ,s djcnht,jdfyf hsyrjv. Â rfrjv-nj dblt 'nj e;t htfkbpjdfyj yf
cfqnf[ ati.su b www.lkw-walter.com.
- Êfr, gj Âfitve vytyb., ,eltn ghjldbufnmcz vjytnbpfwbz cjwctntq?
- Ìjytnbpfwbz cjwctntq e;t yfxfkfcm. Ïhfdlf, gjrf 'nj cltkfyj yt
ckbirjv bpzoyj – xthtp rjyntrcnye. b ,fyythye. htrkfve. Ïjcntgtyyj
gjlrk.xf.ncz gkfnyst cthdbcs. ß db;e nhb jcyjdys[ cgjcj,f pfhf,jnrf
ltytu: htrkfvf c hfpdbnsv nfhutnbyujv (e gjkmpjdfntkz chtlb bynthtcjd
ujhyst ks;b – gjrfpsdftv tve htrkfve ujhyjks;yjuj rehjhnf b nfr lfktt),
gkfnyst cthdbcs (dctdjpvj;yst buhs, ljgjkybntkmyst djpvj;yjcnb pf
ltymub b n.l.) b ,htylbhjdfyyst cjj,otcndf. Òj tcnm cjwctnm cj,bhftn e
ct,z uhegge k.,bntktq rfrjq-yb,elm vfhrb (yfghbvth, lacoste) b pf
ltymub jn ghtlcnfdbntktq 'njq vfhrb ,htylbhetn uhegge gjkmpjdfntktq b
hfpdbdftn tt.
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